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No work no pay

10 replies

tizsha · 27/10/2024 17:46

Not an aibu but posted here for more responses.

So ds20 has been working for a smallish family run business which has been doing quite well up until recently.

He's contracted to work 39 hours a week, last week he only worked 4 days, the week before only 3 days due to not much work on. So he's had 3 days off unpaid.
They've now told him works slack and nothing on as yet for next week, they will let him know if any jobs come in.

He knows they are having trouble getting jobs at the minute so he agreed to take these days off.

My question is should he still get paid for having no work? Surely he's entitled to something! He's not on a zero hour contract

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Jumpingthruhoops · 27/10/2024 17:50

If his actual contract states 39 hpw then that's what he should be paid for. This company, however 'small' and 'family run' is trying to pull a fast one. If your son doesn't feel he can, then you should definitely have a word.

takealettermsjones · 27/10/2024 17:51

So they're forcing him to take unpaid leave?

Get him in touch with ACAS

tizsha · 27/10/2024 17:58

I'm not sure what his actual contract says but I know he's full time and he works 39 hours a week plus over time when needed. He gets £3 an hour extra for overtime, if that makes a difference.

Yep they are basically making him take it unpaid. He has no holiday days left.

He won't say anything to them, he doesn't have it in him to do so.

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andweallsingalong · 27/10/2024 17:59

Yes they should have paid him, but he has 2 problems.

  1. They asked him if he would take unpaid work and he said yes. I'd leave it this time and next time if he wants to get paid he should say no, sorry, I'm here to work and need the money. Then they should either send him home and pay him or, more likely, give him cleaning or something to do.
  1. If he's been there less than 2 years they can just let him go so long as they pay him his contracted notice period. It needs to be his decision whether he wants to risk this if he likes the job and thinks they will get more work.

I wouldn't be stepping in, but giving him him options and supporting from the sidelines.

tizsha · 27/10/2024 18:04

andweallsingalong · 27/10/2024 17:59

Yes they should have paid him, but he has 2 problems.

  1. They asked him if he would take unpaid work and he said yes. I'd leave it this time and next time if he wants to get paid he should say no, sorry, I'm here to work and need the money. Then they should either send him home and pay him or, more likely, give him cleaning or something to do.
  1. If he's been there less than 2 years they can just let him go so long as they pay him his contracted notice period. It needs to be his decision whether he wants to risk this if he likes the job and thinks they will get more work.

I wouldn't be stepping in, but giving him him options and supporting from the sidelines.

I told him to say no next time they ask him. Not sure if he has this time. Not spoke to him since he told me.

He's been there 2.5 years now. I'm just trying to get some advice to pass on to him.

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Georgyporky · 27/10/2024 18:14

" I'm just trying to get some advice to pass on to him."

Tell him to speak to his T.U. If he's not in one, tell him to join.

Dipsy10 · 27/10/2024 22:40

Depends whether his contract of employment has a clause allowing his employers to lay him off due to
lack of work. If not he should be paid for 39 hours (his contracted hours per week).

DragonGypsyDoris · 27/10/2024 23:13

Georgyporky · 27/10/2024 18:14

" I'm just trying to get some advice to pass on to him."

Tell him to speak to his T.U. If he's not in one, tell him to join.

TU membership is extremely unlikely in a small family business.

workworkworkblahblahblah · 28/10/2024 00:36

Family run businesses are the worst for that kind of thing. Their main aim is to pay employees as little as possible to keep all of the revenue for the family members

Oblomov24 · 28/10/2024 01:29

Update his CV and get him to start looking for a new job.

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