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To feel violated

39 replies

OopsyDaisie · 25/10/2024 23:05

Something really weird happened on the tube just now and I feel shaken....
Loads of room, but this large strong young man sat right next to me and his arm touching mine (like menspredonf but with this arms, if that makes sense)
I kept "keeping my space", forcing my arm to stay strong nad not me, but ke kept pushing and pushing his arm... I got frustrated and kept not moving... but then when I kept not moving, he started moving his arm around in circles, pressing mine, it started to remind me of sexual movements if that makes sense... and at that point I starting feeling very scared.... I didn't want to complain (very scared and aware of how large and strong he was, what if he followed.me out at the station?).
I waited a few second after the train stopped (last station), he didn't move! Waited for me. So I got up but instead of going put of the station I walked back ti the rear if the train... he didn't see me and left, and I stayed back for a few minutes shaking. Am I overreacting?

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JMSA · 26/10/2024 15:26

Horrible fucker Flowers

I'd have said something but completely understand why you wouldn't want to.
Hope you're ok.

rainfallpurevividcat · 26/10/2024 15:34

It's a good idea to try and move to where you can see other people. But if you can't see others then OP did the right thing.

I was on a fairly busy train one time, a few standing passengers but with plenty of space around us. A man got on and stood right up next to me, and was fully leaning his weight onto my shoulder as the train moved off. There was no need for him to do this whatsoever. I said loudly "Excuse me, would you mind giving me more space?" and he took off down the carriage without saying a word. He absolutely knew what he was doing and thought I wouldn't call it out. Anyone doing something accidental, or stumbling into someone as the train moved would've just said "Oops, sorry."

Allthehorsesintheworld · 26/10/2024 15:41

Put the British Transport police number 61016 in your phone under Sis, or any random name. Easier to text them if you feel in danger or harassed again.
Think you did the right thing, got out of the situation safely.
Id report him now as he may well be known to them.

Startingagainandagain · 26/10/2024 19:40

'FestiveBakewell · Today 15:19
Nope if someone harassed me I would move simple.'

Nope.

The point is men should not be harassing women on public transport in the first place. That's the problem.

Not the OP's actions.

OopsyDaisie · 26/10/2024 20:01

I get that a lot of people would have said something, but I didn't feel safe doing that, he was literally twice my size... and if he would tower over me or follow me after I left the train, I felt very scared.
I thought of just getting up and moving, but I was so ANGRY to have to give up my space, initially I thought he was one of those pricks that if I kept my arm stiff and strong, he would get my point and keep to his space, which is what usually happens ime... and then when he didn't, and things got weirder, I thought am i imagining this, or does this feel dangerous? And I decided it felt dangerous and luckily we were at the last stop and I managed to think of an easy way out...
ETA I didn't remember 61016 at the time, but on camera, he was pressing his ARM (on a very weird fashion, but still, just the arm), so Idk if anyone would the me seriously...

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noctilucentcloud · 26/10/2024 20:30

OP please don't feel like you have to explain yourself, we all react differently (& sometimes we think/say we'd react in one way, but when in the situation we really react another way. Fight/flight/freeze can kick in, all evolutionary, people react how they react). You did what you thought was best (none of us were there, you were) and you kept yourself safe.

I'm sorry this happened to you. Do you want to report to the traffic police? I'm sure you can report after the fact and there will be cctv. The male or his behaviour might already be known to them. Good luck with whatever you decide.

Bellatrixpure · 26/10/2024 20:41

You didn’t do anything wrong in this situation. Those people telling you that you should have spoken up are not in your shoes and didn’t know how it felt. You kept yourself safe and that is the main thing

Big hugs xx

YellowTambourine · 26/10/2024 20:45

That's horrible. What a prick. You shouldn't have had to experience that/he shouldn't have done any of it. Really hope you're okay.

JazzyJelly · 26/10/2024 21:03

FestiveBakewell · 26/10/2024 15:25

I had a situation with a man on the train when I was with my kids you don’t think I was scared a lone woman and even worse with her kids? but I got myself and my kids up and MOVED and threatened to call the police if he followed me. This man didn’t even speak to the op the one that approached me was threatening me why would I just sit there 😕

Because some of us freeze? Have some empathy

LLresident · 26/10/2024 21:09

FestiveBakewell · 26/10/2024 15:19

Nope if someone harassed me I would move simple.

But I’d you are in an empty carriage with him there’s nowhere to go.

2Little · 26/10/2024 21:12

I'm sorry. I think it's scariest late at night on an empty carriage. Many moons ago, I used to travel on the tube for work everyday, this guy stood behind me and was rubbing his dick on my arse. I very loudly said excuse me stop rubbing your penis on me please. Everyone looked and it stopped immediately. He swiftly got off. I think I would have been much more intimidated on an empty train.

jaimelesoleil · 26/10/2024 21:26

I would have said something like...Do you mind! and given him a stern look. But I'm not backwards in coming forward especially on the tube if I feel my space 'awkwardly' invaded.
Glad you're home and ok X

Pebbles16 · 26/10/2024 21:30

OopsyDaisie · 26/10/2024 20:01

I get that a lot of people would have said something, but I didn't feel safe doing that, he was literally twice my size... and if he would tower over me or follow me after I left the train, I felt very scared.
I thought of just getting up and moving, but I was so ANGRY to have to give up my space, initially I thought he was one of those pricks that if I kept my arm stiff and strong, he would get my point and keep to his space, which is what usually happens ime... and then when he didn't, and things got weirder, I thought am i imagining this, or does this feel dangerous? And I decided it felt dangerous and luckily we were at the last stop and I managed to think of an easy way out...
ETA I didn't remember 61016 at the time, but on camera, he was pressing his ARM (on a very weird fashion, but still, just the arm), so Idk if anyone would the me seriously...

Edited

Please report.
We all have to keep reporting this shit until it is taken seriously

MoveOnTheCards · 27/10/2024 07:18

That’s really creepy and out of order @OopsyDaisie please report it.

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