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To go back on reconciliation with H

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bananallama6 · 23/10/2024 16:25

I left H about 5 months ago with our child aged 10. I'd fallen out of love, had an emotional affair which he couldn't get past and led to a lot of angry outbursts towards me (which I do completely get.) The last straw for me was about 6 months after the affair when on another 'make or break' holiday H had a tantrum at me at the train station and said he wasn't coming, which really upset dc, and a week or so later after he was nasty to dc at a celebration meal out, I left and moved back near family, without warning because I thought he'd react really angrily to me saying I was leaving. I returned to pack my and dc's stuff a month or so later and set us up in our new place. At no point did H come and see us, he just sent me messages periodically ranging from very upset to very angry and threatening me with financial stuff in a divorce. H and I have had good times but many bad times - he doesn't bother with cleaning or household stuff beyond cooking which he enjoys, he doesn't cultivate any hobbies or interests, he is a stresshead and he needs a lot of 'me time' which consists of gaming/scrolling his phone and dc has picked up on his disinterest and mentioned it a few times. He is a very good provider but he also uses money as a weapon eg. moving money out of joint accounts when he is angry with me. Worst of all he is a sulker and has been all dc's life, he has sulked on holidays/days out/celebrations and locked himself in the room or gone to bed and started ignoring us both over a trivial disagreement.

However. Neither of us filed for divorce in the past 5 months, we have been in touch and met up a couple of times near him, and we are both really sad and have times of missing our family life. However he gave me an ultimatum that if I didn't come back he would file for divorce and I decided to come back. This was largely influenced by the fact that dc is going through a tough time (entering puberty, but also hasn't settled well in new school and misses friends and her dad), and I felt like i was being selfish with dc and H being so upset because of a decision i made.

Since we have been back H has been very 'off' with me, has continued to scroll on his phone, still seems as angry just under the surface as he did when we were living together. He has 2 weeks holiday left to take this year and can wfh at will and yet he hasn't taken any days off to spend with us even over half term. Here, the family home was absolutely filthy when we returned despite the fact I did a deep clean and sort when I was last here, to make it nice for H. I'm talking encrusted durt in the kitchen, dustballs visible all over the living room, limescale ridden toilet, filthy kitchen bin, rotting food in the fridge, furniture pulled out and askew, cat litter tray full. The garden me and dc used to look after was shocking- weeds, litter everywhere, dirty patio. He didn't even make the house nice for our return that he insisted on for so long. It seemed intentional (although he is totally incompetent on the cleaning front.) He hasn't even bothered to take the elderly cat to the vet and he is now very overdue.

He has now told me that he is 'really happy' we are back, but that i have to give him time as he has been alone for so long. He blames all our issues on my affai and I feel he always will. I feel like a total mug to be honest. My gut is telling me that we are OVER and it was a mistake to come back, however sad everybody was at the situation. I had a small but nice flat rented (I still have it, as i had to prepay rent) and dc didn't have to live with H's moods. I know that H will never forgive me for the emotional affair and fair enough, but why did he want us back? He could have just moved on. I don't love him and i am done grovelling. I've spent days cleaning the place and doing chores and H doesn't even seem to like me. I notice how dc is following him around the house for attention, something she has always done, and it kills me now it's so obvious. She deserves better. We both do. I made a mistake and yes i left him but i am not a monster. I was a good wife and mother for years.

WIBU to tell him it's over and file for divorce?

OP posts:
Workingtosurvivenotthrive · 28/10/2024 03:41

Please leave, when he goes to work tomorrow pack up whatever you and DC took back there and head back to your home, just the two of you.

He will never change, he thinks he has the power to decide. To keep you dangling while he decides if you are good enough. Fuck that, find your anger! How dare he treat you - and your DC - like this??

Don't be embarrassed or ashamed or guilty, he did this to himself. If your friends or family ask, just say that you felt you had to give it one last try so that you knew for you that it wasn't salvageable. Now you know it's not and you can move on.

Head back to your home, to your support. Get DC resettled before half term ends and plan something nice for you to do together.

When you are up to it, file for divorce. Don't let him have so much control over your life and what happens next. Best of luck OP.

merrymelodies · 28/10/2024 03:45

What a terrible role model he is! LTB. Angry

FictionalCharacter · 28/10/2024 04:04

You know you have to leave, and now you have to stop ruminating and just do it. Your confusion is 100% caused by him. When you’re away from him permanently you’ll start to heal.

Go back to your nice flat as soon as you possibly can. As a pp said, the sooner you do this the better it will be for your child because of the school situation (as well as the dreadful father situation).

You really need to stop thinking so much about what he thinks, because his thinking s faulty and yours isn’t. The fact that he threatened you with leaving for so long and then wanted you back when you left him says it all. He doesn’t love you or want you I’m afraid - when you’re there he’s completely disinterested in you. What he wants is to call the shots. He doesn’t want you leaving him because he thinks it’s his decision as to whether you’re together or not. That’s all it is.

And stop believing that you’ve “ruined his life”. He’s really done a number on you if you believe that. If anyone has ruined his life, it’s him.

Get out quickly and enjoy a peaceful life. Leave him to his relationship with this phone.

Guavafish1 · 28/10/2024 05:02

Time to cut him out and start divorce proceedings

he is a miserable git

WithnailOnTour · 28/10/2024 05:09

What a cunt he is. Just leave him and get on with your life.

AutumnFroglets · 28/10/2024 08:53

@bananallama6

Pack your bags/suitcases.
Book your train ticket/petrol in car.
Once H has gone to work today you tell DD to collect anything she wants that you haven't packed.
Put cat in carrier and get her food/litter tray.
Write a note with a new email on it.
Block him on everything except that new email.
All get in car and go back to your other house.
Then contact Women's Aid and your GP.

You can do this. You HAVE to do this.

AlertCat · 28/10/2024 08:55

AutumnFroglets · 28/10/2024 08:53

@bananallama6

Pack your bags/suitcases.
Book your train ticket/petrol in car.
Once H has gone to work today you tell DD to collect anything she wants that you haven't packed.
Put cat in carrier and get her food/litter tray.
Write a note with a new email on it.
Block him on everything except that new email.
All get in car and go back to your other house.
Then contact Women's Aid and your GP.

You can do this. You HAVE to do this.

This ☝️

Heronwatcher · 28/10/2024 09:00

Just stop with the self-abuse and get on with it.

You gave him a second chance. He squandered it. End of subject. It’s no one else’s business but yours.

Your DD has some time with her dad and in her old stomping ground. No one has died or ended up in hospital. You had the good sense not to burn your bridges so that you had the option to go back- give yourself some credit for that.

Your DD might be a bit upset/ confused but explain to her what you’ve said here, and give her a bit of time. Obviously she can still see her dad and have a rewarding relationship with him if she wants to, you just won’t be living together. You’ve got to do what’s right for her.

Just get your and your DD’s stuff together and head back. He’s shown you how life will be for you both and you know it’s not what you want. If you go soon you have a few days to chill out quietly in your new place without him acting like a dick before your DD goes back to school.

AcrossthePond55 · 28/10/2024 13:53

AutumnFroglets · 28/10/2024 08:53

@bananallama6

Pack your bags/suitcases.
Book your train ticket/petrol in car.
Once H has gone to work today you tell DD to collect anything she wants that you haven't packed.
Put cat in carrier and get her food/litter tray.
Write a note with a new email on it.
Block him on everything except that new email.
All get in car and go back to your other house.
Then contact Women's Aid and your GP.

You can do this. You HAVE to do this.

@bananallama6

Yes. This☝

The thing is not to think about it, just to do it. Don't think about why you're doing it, don't think about tomorrow, just do it now. Make the actions on the post into a 'To Do' list, then put yourself on 'autopilot' checking off the items one by one until you're rolling down the road.

The only thing I'd change is to leave first and let him know your new email and block him after you get home. The important thing is to hit the road as soon as you possibly can. The distance will give you strength.

Don't think, do. You can worry about the whys and wherefores later, when you're safely back in your own home.

2Little · 28/10/2024 14:01

ETA: Sorry I didn't see the post about H's abusive behaviour. It's normal for it to take several goes to leave an abusive relationship. I think it took 7/8 for me to leave my abusive ex and I didn't have a child. You can do it. Although, your going to need to be super strong and have boundaries. Change your number and only communicate with him via a parenting app or email. You can do this. You need to do this.

IsitaHatOrACat · 28/10/2024 14:20

Repeat in your head or out loud: "it doesn't matter what he thinks". And keep repeating it until you fully believe it. Take back control of yours and your DCs life. Take back the power. You've done the hard part already. You can do this and create a calm, safe and happy home with DC (and Cat)

Ignore posters who are putting you down. It doesn't matter what has happened to date. What matters is what you do from this point onwards.

bananallama6 · 30/10/2024 18:03

It's so odd, because i made a few clear bids for connection - asked him out for lunch, asked him to go for a walk, put my arms around him when cooking (his response: what are you doing), sat next to him on the sofa but he just treated me with contempt and dismissal. Refused to come out with me, ignored me on his computer game etc. So, resolved to leave today, i went to bed. This morning he was hovering around me giving me hugs and wanting to hug me in bed. It seems like a weird game. Like he wants me here to ignore me and make me feel bad but if he feels me pull away and give up, he comes to me. I don't think its necessarily even conscious on his part. I dont think he knows what to do. I have filled in the divorce form online and just need to click submit. i have sorted and packed up our stuff. I feel terribly sad today but also like i cant cry anymore. Like i should just set him free to go have a life with someone he loves who loves him. Its hard to keep hold of that but i am trying. I cant carry on being treated like this, no matter what i did in the past, it is just so sad for everybody. He says i'm not 'trying'. I dont know what to do, i dont think that counselling is a magic bullet. I have been trying but why try with someone who hates you? However, dc loves him and they are out at the cinema now. I feel like the biggest cow ever, who has made everything worse with my indecisiveness.

OP posts:
FictionalCharacter · 30/10/2024 19:32

put my arms around him when cooking (his response: what are you doing), sat next to him on the sofa but he just treated me with contempt and dismissal.
Then
This morning he was hovering around me giving me hugs and wanting to hug me in bed.

This is 100% consistent with him repeatedly threatening to leave, then when you left him, he wanted you to come back.
He doesn't want you, he wants to call the shots and be in control.
The sooner you get away from these mind games, the better.
Hopefully with time you'll accept that this wasn't your fault.

AlertCat · 30/10/2024 19:40

It seems like a weird game. Like he wants me here to ignore me and make me feel bad but if he feels me pull away and give up, he comes to me.

it is a game. He does it to keep you off balance and also to maintain his control and his narcissistic supply. And I would suggest he knows exactly what he’s doing, too.

My ex did this. It’s very effective. I’m so sorry he is doing it to both you and your daughter, but it won’t last- the nice behaviour, I mean- and as soon as he thinks he’s got you both back, he’ll be horrible to you again. Stay strong, stick to your plan. Best wishes!

Wellingtonspie · 30/10/2024 19:55

You need to leave and stay gone. His just playing a horrible cat and mouse game and even if we take away your affair your daughter doesn’t deserve to be in this game moving away, moving back in, moving away Prince and repeat. She needs the stability which she doesn’t have with you going back and forth or staying frankly as dad sounds like a tinder box waiting to go off at any time.

HappyToSmile · 30/10/2024 21:31

Sweetheart, take control back, leave, file for divorce and be happy. Otherwise you will continue this for years. He doesn't want to put work into this relationship, he just wants control.
Will it be hard? Yes. Will it be a roller coaster? Yes. But will it be worth it? Hell, yes.

AutumnFroglets · 30/10/2024 21:56

Like he wants me here to ignore me and make me feel bad but if he feels me pull away and give up, he comes to me.
It is a well known and very common thing that abusive people do. It is so well known it has a name, it's called "cycle of abuse".

You seem to be under the impression that if you just do something a certain way, or at a certain time, or right tone, that he will suddenly see the light, shout eureka and become a changed man who is madly in love with you. I'm sorry to burst your bubble but this will NEVER happen. Why? Because he hates you. He despises you. He doesn't respect you. So why does he want you around? Because he can control you. He can get you to cry on demand, he can get you to smile through those tears, he can get to see fear in your eyes - when he wants, and as often as he wants. You are the mouse and he is the cat and he's playing with you for no other reason than because he wants to. Because he can.

I dont know what to do, i dont think that counselling is a magic bullet.
Listen to us who has been there, done the same as you, and have come out the other side, very much scarred but still here. We can see him for what he is, we can see how much he has taken from you. The counselling is not to help you stay, it's to help keep you alive (and not just physically). Please leave.

Workingtosurvivenotthrive · 31/10/2024 09:06

I hope you managed to leave yesterday and you are your DD are ok?? Thinking of you.

I agree with the others, he does know what he is doing and he is doing it on purpose to keep you on the hook. Free yourself and enjoy a life without this drama.

AcrossthePond55 · 31/10/2024 13:44

@bananallama6

As far as him putting his arms around you etc, for whatever reason some abusers seem to have some weird 6th sense when we're getting ready to leave. I don't know what it is, maybe we look or act differently no matter how hard we try to be 'normal'. Maybe it's some 'vibe' we give off. You just need to ignore it, all sound and fury signifying nothing, and get on with your plans.

When it comes to him telling you that you aren't 'working on the marriage' or whatever and then rebuffing you, you need to realize that he is punishing you for your EA. He doesn't really want you back for love of you, he wants to see you hurt like he hurt. It's unhealthy of him to do this and it's unhealthy of you to stay and put up with it. So you aren't 'making everything worse with my indecisiveness', you're playing right in to his hands.

Please, just leave, for both your sakes. You need to recover your 'self' and he needs to heal.

DearDenimEagle · 11/11/2024 23:16

He’s glad you’re back so he can punish you. Please, leave. It’s toxic for your child. I’ve been there, sans child, fortunately

goody2shooz · 13/11/2024 19:31

@bananallama6 youre not ‘going back’ on your reconciliation, HE is! If he had kept his word and been ‘nice’, you wouldn’t be posting this. He wanted you back to be housemaid and victim. Please leave and take dc and cat. Dc may love him, that applies wherever she lives. Would you want her to be in a marriage like this? Of course not - so leave now and show her this is what a sensible woman does when her partner is abusive.

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