To think this isn't safe or right? Stallion behavior

QuestionableMouse · 2024-10-23T15:04:48+00:00

[[https://www.facebook.com/reel/1992986797812659?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v https://www.facebook.com/reel/1992986797812659/?mibextid=rS40aB7S9Ucbxw6v]] I keep seeing this woman and her horse on my reels and his behavior scares me. I've never "played" with a horse in this way so maybe it's just me, but snapping his teeth towards her and kicking out isn't safe behavior, is it? He's going to kill her one day imo and she thinks it's funny 😑

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 23/10/2024 16:14

Dressing him in Sherlock Holmes’ coat is also weirdo behaviour.

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QuestionableMouse · 23/10/2024 16:20

Like I'm not one to call people out like this but his behavior genuinely scares me. And the people in the comments going "oh he's so cute and spunky!!1!"

Terrifying.

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TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 23/10/2024 16:23

The horse looks happy enough.

Any animal can injure you, I guess the owner knows her horse.

Iaminthefly · 23/10/2024 16:27

Absolutely crazy way to go on with any horse, stallion or not. They aren't puppies. They are big strong animals that can easily hurt you.

Whole thing is a disaster waiting to happen!

AgMaggy · 23/10/2024 16:29

She’s been called out a lot on his behaviour on all forms of social media!

Iaminthefly · 23/10/2024 16:33

@AgMaggy As she should. She shouldn't own horses if this is how she treats them. Imagine if she ever has to sell him on and that's how he behaves? It's unfair to the horse. They need to learn manners to have happy productive lives

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QuestionableMouse · 23/10/2024 16:36

AgMaggy · 23/10/2024 16:29

She’s been called out a lot on his behaviour on all forms of social media!

I'm kinda glad to hear that.

I got bit by a horse a while ago and luckily it was winter so I had layers on but I had a massive bruise on my thigh for ages.

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TimeForTeaAndG · 23/10/2024 16:37

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 23/10/2024 16:14

Dressing him in Sherlock Holmes’ coat is also weirdo behaviour.

Isn't that just a normal thing for horses to have coats on for warmth or whatever? I see loads of them around here with coats on.

Pamcakey · 23/10/2024 16:41

@TheLightSideOfTheMoon Pretty common for horses to wear rugs when the weather starts turning for winter. Nothing weird at all about that.

I’d presume she knows her horse. The majority of the time, he is keeping a respectful distance. Most of the ‘biting’ looking like mouthing/play. I have one who mouths a lot. I’ve had him his whole life, it’s play and he won’t suddenly take a chunk out of me.

There is one moment in the video that does concern me but it’s all relative to knowing your horse, what’s normal for him and what he reacts to. She says he’s old and it’s quite possible he will never be sold.

GiddyRobin · 23/10/2024 16:59

She probably knows her horse...but I wouldn't do this to this extent. Some horses are like this, enjoy the chaos a bit, but I'm cautious after a spooked horse severely injured my husband (it was his horse, and he'd never shown signs of it before, and DH wasn't teasing him. A car backfired while he was riding and it threw him off and trampled him.).

I might not be best placed to say due to my own trauma. But I don't necessarily think it's either right or wrong. He's her horse. I assume she knows his personality, and she says he's an old boy so she probably has a long standing game with him.

Still an animal though. I'd be concerned doing this could make him liable to spook, but again - that could be from a place of trauma. I've had horses all my life and never done this though, it seems a bit excessive.

notanothernamechange24 · 23/10/2024 17:10

Tbh if she's had him for 15 years and thus far not got hurt then she is probably going to be ok. Looks like he is a handful and not something I would handle like that.
I kind of think this is what we have created though but demonising Stallions the way we have. He would probably be far happier had he been chucked out with a large herd of either brood mares or geldings and treated like a horse. Instead most people keep stallions alone and then wonder why they behave like this 🤷🏻‍♀️ All his instincts and hormones are telling him one thing and we are expecting them to behave in the opposite way.

@QuestionableMouse what do you want from calling her out on it? If you don't like the way the horse behaves fine - you're not the one dealing with him. What outcome do you want? Him put down because you think he is unsafe? You are not going to change that behaviour now I tell you!

Anotherparkingthread · 23/10/2024 17:23

Some horses are just like this. She's showing that he still wants to play and thinks he's the shit even though he's 19. His behaviour isn't as crazy as it appears, that horse is being very careful. He's also rugged up to his eyeballs so he clearly doesn't mind being handled when she needs to. This behaviour would be dangerous if the horse was unable to be handled for farrier, vet visits and rugging, but that clearly isn't the case here.

TheOtherSide21 · 23/10/2024 17:25

Wouldn’t be letting any of mine carry on like that when I was around, let alone encouraging it.

Boundaries are essential if you don’t want to die 😂

WiddlinDiddlin · 23/10/2024 17:34

I knew exactly who this would be without opening the link!

Yes its very foolish and she is setting her horse up to make a mistake, which could end up with him seriously injuring her or someone else.

I do not doubt she knows him very very well, and that she believes he wouldn't try to hurt her, however she is building a false sense of security here, forgetting in some ways he is an animal, and whilst he wouldn't intentionally want to hurt her, he has NO idea of how easily injured a human is.

It would take one slip, one misjudged rear, one 'I think she's playing but really she's trying to keep her balance in the mud and hasn't seen how close I am'.. for him to knock her flying, boot her in the head etc etc.

This is how humans end up dead - a friends daughter died as a result of a horse playing with her. She was walking away, he darted up and grabbed at her hat, a game they'd played often, only this time she had her hood up over her baseball cap.

He grabbed her by the hood/back of the jacket and instead of flinging a baseball cap into the air, he flung HER, and her neck broke, she was dead before she hit the ground.

YellowAsteroid · 23/10/2024 17:35

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 23/10/2024 16:14

Dressing him in Sherlock Holmes’ coat is also weirdo behaviour.

Tell me you know nothing about horses without telling me you know nothing about horses.

WiddlinDiddlin · 23/10/2024 17:36

Also whilst she may be safe (I disagree but lets suppose she is), she is putting all this online and it encourages others.

I am seeing more and more videos from much younger people who think their horses rearing, kicking out, biting etc, pratting about in the middle of roads... is hilariously funny and makes great SM content.

Neves7 · 23/10/2024 17:40

WiddlinDiddlin · 23/10/2024 17:36

Also whilst she may be safe (I disagree but lets suppose she is), she is putting all this online and it encourages others.

I am seeing more and more videos from much younger people who think their horses rearing, kicking out, biting etc, pratting about in the middle of roads... is hilariously funny and makes great SM content.

Exactly. I can’t comment on this specific horse but in general this is a very bad idea and should not be encouraged. The horse may be only playing but horses play very rough with each other.

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QuestionableMouse · 23/10/2024 17:43

I don't want anything, was just wondering if I was being overly precious about the behavior!

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Howmanycatsistoomany · 23/10/2024 17:50

TheLightSideOfTheMoon · 23/10/2024 16:14

Dressing him in Sherlock Holmes’ coat is also weirdo behaviour.

You mean the rug? Most horses in the UK wear them in winter.

This owner is a bloody idiot and is probably going to get her face ripped off or her head kicked in by her horse and tbh it'll serve her right.

krustykittens · 23/10/2024 18:09

I think she knows him very well and as he is in he 20s, I believe, he is unlikely to be sold on. But I agree it is blurring the boundaries and not behaviour I would encourage in my own - they really do not know how fragile we are, compared to them.

I was on a yard where a livery was asked to leave because she kept playing tag with her Shire foal. The livery owner asked her to stop as he expected to play tag with everyone who entered the field and could get very rough and he was only going to get bigger. She refused, so was told to leave before someone got hurt.

PyreneanAubrie · 23/10/2024 18:10

WiddlinDiddlin · 23/10/2024 17:36

Also whilst she may be safe (I disagree but lets suppose she is), she is putting all this online and it encourages others.

I am seeing more and more videos from much younger people who think their horses rearing, kicking out, biting etc, pratting about in the middle of roads... is hilariously funny and makes great SM content.

I agree, it's not good to promote this sort of interaction. Clearly she has a very strong bond with the horse, but as you rightly point out, it gives ideas to those with far less experience and it could have tragic consequences.

People do the same with gigantic dogs, manhandling Cane Corso and Caucasians on social media and it's not setting a good example at all. Powerful animals need to be treated with respect.

GiddyRobin · 23/10/2024 18:16

WiddlinDiddlin · 23/10/2024 17:34

I knew exactly who this would be without opening the link!

Yes its very foolish and she is setting her horse up to make a mistake, which could end up with him seriously injuring her or someone else.

I do not doubt she knows him very very well, and that she believes he wouldn't try to hurt her, however she is building a false sense of security here, forgetting in some ways he is an animal, and whilst he wouldn't intentionally want to hurt her, he has NO idea of how easily injured a human is.

It would take one slip, one misjudged rear, one 'I think she's playing but really she's trying to keep her balance in the mud and hasn't seen how close I am'.. for him to knock her flying, boot her in the head etc etc.

This is how humans end up dead - a friends daughter died as a result of a horse playing with her. She was walking away, he darted up and grabbed at her hat, a game they'd played often, only this time she had her hood up over her baseball cap.

He grabbed her by the hood/back of the jacket and instead of flinging a baseball cap into the air, he flung HER, and her neck broke, she was dead before she hit the ground.

Awful, that poor girl.

The Stallion who injured DH was new. He was training him. We later found out that he'd been played with by kids a lot on a farm, which the previous owners hadn't told us. I questioned them and it was all "you know, honking toys, blah blah".

No fucking wonder he spooked when a car backfired. Bunch of cunts should have told us and saved a near death experience and a life long injury. I'm still angry to this day, it makes me seethe.

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QuestionableMouse · 23/10/2024 18:21

WiddlinDiddlin · 23/10/2024 17:34

I knew exactly who this would be without opening the link!

Yes its very foolish and she is setting her horse up to make a mistake, which could end up with him seriously injuring her or someone else.

I do not doubt she knows him very very well, and that she believes he wouldn't try to hurt her, however she is building a false sense of security here, forgetting in some ways he is an animal, and whilst he wouldn't intentionally want to hurt her, he has NO idea of how easily injured a human is.

It would take one slip, one misjudged rear, one 'I think she's playing but really she's trying to keep her balance in the mud and hasn't seen how close I am'.. for him to knock her flying, boot her in the head etc etc.

This is how humans end up dead - a friends daughter died as a result of a horse playing with her. She was walking away, he darted up and grabbed at her hat, a game they'd played often, only this time she had her hood up over her baseball cap.

He grabbed her by the hood/back of the jacket and instead of flinging a baseball cap into the air, he flung HER, and her neck broke, she was dead before she hit the ground.

Awful and so sad. ☹️☹️

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Patienceinshortsupply · 23/10/2024 18:25

My parents bred welsh cobs and we had 2 stallions. The 1st one we had was a real gentleman, and we were able to go into his stable, groom him, ride him and he was lovely. The 2nd we were banned from going anywhere near his box, and Dad took a fair few kicks until he decided that he was just too unmanageable for a small stud farm.

She clearly knows him well but that behaviour makes me feel very uncomfortable. One slip of the hoof and she's a goner.

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QuestionableMouse · 23/10/2024 19:08

Patienceinshortsupply · 23/10/2024 18:25

My parents bred welsh cobs and we had 2 stallions. The 1st one we had was a real gentleman, and we were able to go into his stable, groom him, ride him and he was lovely. The 2nd we were banned from going anywhere near his box, and Dad took a fair few kicks until he decided that he was just too unmanageable for a small stud farm.

She clearly knows him well but that behaviour makes me feel very uncomfortable. One slip of the hoof and she's a goner.

That's my feeling too. They're too big to mess about with like this!

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