to think that the mob of teachers currently ranting outside my window are a shower of b*st*rds and should shut the feck up?

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AND they are all badly dressed to boot!

on a march my arse, just having a day off imo

It is a modular exam? Because if so, it will go towards his final mark? Or a mock, in which case it shows that he is obviously doing well! Either way good news.

BU- rubbish pay rise which is not in line with inflation

and as with everything else this governemnt gets involved with, trying to tie in a longer (?3yr) rubbish deal to save more money. Yet they award themselves above inflation pay rises and are now looking to adjust their own salaries to allow for the fact that they can't cream more money off the tax payer in "allowances" as come election time they would (maybe) have to justify.

As for independent pay review panel yes it's independant of the profession but NOT independant of the government ( the impression given by Ed Balls on Jermery Vine

( and no not a teacher thank god given the hideous spelling)

i think it just shows he is doing rather wel in general science.

didn't do so well in physics. i dont get it.

If you do not agree with othere peoples right to demonstrate about something that they belive is wrong then maybe you would be better off living somewhere like China for example...

god forbid anyone be inconvenienced by such a triviality as the right to demonstrate.

Hatrick, I'm convinced it isn't.

the upper pay band, before you go through threashold is at around the 27,000 mark. And nmot everyone make threashold. And there are *lots of teachers who leave the profession befor they get anywhere close.

Of all of my university contemporaries I am the worst paid.

Now, granted I love my job and I wouldn't swap, but I'm not going to just go along when people are misquting the figures

Are you close enough to smell the geography teachers' halitosis?

Ditto, I can do the basics of physics and make a reasonable job of teaching it at GCSE if I have to, but I have no real flair for it. To a degree I think that you are either Biology biased or Physics biased. Chemists just like explosions

i s'pose one reason the teachers o/s OO's window are so badly dressed is because they don't have time or money to Boden or to keep up with Cod's latest fashion drivel pronouncements.

oops, that was 2, wasn't it. i must be a crap teacher then.

i support the teachers and pay should be based on retail Price Index RPI.Vocational jobs esp public sector are undervalued

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would "eb retraingin from their fancy jobs" be sore? does that mean non-teachers have fancy jobs?

off to ponder what an eb is and how it could retain even the most beligerent of us in fancy jobs

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Pay should absolutely stay in line with inflation - it is REALLY hard otherwise.

One thing no-one has mentioned is that you are confined to taking holidays in the school holidays - lots of parents on here take their kids out of school for a week (not me though!) to take advantage of cheaper holidays. Not an option for a teacher. Even a teacher without children. They ALWAYS have to pay more for their holidays.

None of the teachers I know work 9-3 - they will generally be there 8-6 or 8-7. When I taught (although it was in a private school) I did 7:45-7:00 every weekday, 7:45-1:00 on a Saturday, and 9:00-11:00 on a Sunday. As I had a 45 mile commute this didn't leave a lot of time for life!

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is that true?

Dh didn't have a pay rise AT ALL for the last 5 years, and this last year it has felt REALLY hard to manage, but fortunately this year they have given him a decent one (he is an engineer not a teacher!), so I do feel sympathetic - it is hard to realise that you are year on year becoming poorer.