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2 % pay rise, insult or privileged?

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Treesandsheepeverywhere · 20/10/2024 06:41

Have a meeting with my boss about our yearly review on Monday.

Private company doing OK, not amazing, but ok.

14 years experience in the field but second year in particular role with this being the first review.

Few changes over the last year hence no review then.
On the other hand, workload has increased since the start.

First company I've worked for that doesn't offer end of year bonuses.
I kind of made peace with that as pay is ok..again not great as it's lower end for my role.

Now, proposed pay increment is said to be 2%, which equats to £500 extra.

On one hand I'm grateful for an increase, on the other, I feel it's low, especially considering the extra work and lack of bonuses.

Obvious option would be to find a different job, but they are far between where I am and would have to possibly move house to do so.

Please help me word a request for a more substantial amount without sounding grabby, entitled or rude.

YABU: You're lucky to even get anything.
Considering your boss is a stubborn mule, don't complicate relations.

YANBU: They should have offered more and it's reasonable to counteroffer.

Thanks.

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PurBal · 20/10/2024 06:47

I worked in the private sector for so long I am used to getting shitty pay rises. If it's below inflation then it's an insult and a real terms pay cut. A with inflation pay increase is "normal". And above inflation is something to be grateful for.

muddlingthrou · 20/10/2024 06:53

There's never any harm in asking and evidence shows men routinely ask far more often than women do. I would prepare some evidence about average compensation for your role and how your responsibilities have increased since you started. Then propose a bigger increase. Keep it impersonal and factual, the worst they can do is say no. It can actually reflect well on you to know your own worth and advocate for it. Remember, they will want to retain you.

User202242 · 20/10/2024 06:54

It's a rubbish pay rise, let's be honest, but I work in the private industry and we get pay review based on CPI which is currently 1.7% for last 12 months so therefore if they are using this, they can justify it. I doubt uprooting your house and life are worth it for an argument to make you feel undervalued but maybe discuss the opportunity for an objective/performance based pay review in the next 12 months?

Gumbo · 20/10/2024 06:56

The (large private sector) place I work has announced that nobody will be getting pay rises this year, so I'd have bitten their arm off if they offered 2%! I earn a reasonable wage, but definitely on the low side compared to competitors - but for several reasons I can't leave so will have to suck it up.

It's how things are currently in many businesses, and I actually think it's going to get worse after Labour's budget announcement if it's going to hit employers harder ...

TemuSpecialBuy · 20/10/2024 06:56

Am i understanding correctly that you have 14 yrs exp but are on 25k?
Or is the 500 post tax?

Personally i have never had a payrise in private of less than 5% except for 1 yr where wages were frozen due to economy. This includes a year where our company officially told people ave payrise was 2% i got 5%. There have been a couple 9f years where bonuses werent given as they are discretionary.

My advice is always the same: do your cv, go to market and get a counter offer.
Your employer either matches it or you leave

JustWalkingTheDogs · 20/10/2024 07:02

Sounds about right tbh. I work in the private sector and the only times I've got more than about 2% is when I've been promoted. I've had about 2% for the last two years running

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 20/10/2024 08:33

TemuSpecialBuy · 20/10/2024 06:56

Am i understanding correctly that you have 14 yrs exp but are on 25k?
Or is the 500 post tax?

Personally i have never had a payrise in private of less than 5% except for 1 yr where wages were frozen due to economy. This includes a year where our company officially told people ave payrise was 2% i got 5%. There have been a couple 9f years where bonuses werent given as they are discretionary.

My advice is always the same: do your cv, go to market and get a counter offer.
Your employer either matches it or you leave

Sorry wasn't clear.
It's a housing package of 12k and actual pay is 25k..

Thank you all for the advice. Just feel demotivated by it all. I accepted the extra work and missed review expecting it to pay off at this year's review.
So I do kind of feel mugged off.

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GiraffeTree · 20/10/2024 08:38

I haven't voted either way, because I think it doesn't help to use emotive words like "grateful" or "insult" when discussing your salary. It's a business decision, not a personal one. If you think you're underpaid for what you do, start looking elsewhere. You say that jobs like yours are few and far between in your area, so yes that means they can get away with paying you less. That's just the way it is.

VioletCrawleyForever · 20/10/2024 08:48

I got1% last year and will probably get the same this year. Charity sector.

toomuchfaff · 20/10/2024 09:43

If you don't ask, you definitely won't get.

If the pay is particularly bad for sector, why not make moves to find another role

Treesandsheepeverywhere · 23/10/2024 18:40

Thank you all. Have decided to leave it as we're looking to move in the next year or so.
Not great feeling undervalued but don't think much will come out of me raising it.

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