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Handonmyhip7 · 19/10/2024 20:41

My dd has disclosed that back when she an inpatient for her mental health that sometimes to remove her from her bedroom if she refused to go staff would drag her across the floor to get her out of the room if needed for safety. Aibu to think their are proper restraint techniques for a reason

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Danioyellow · 19/10/2024 20:45

What makes you think their restraint techniques were wrong? You say she was removed for her own safety. There’s going to be dragging involved in moving a patient who doesn’t want to be moved, no matter what technique you use, unless there were at least 4 members of staff restraining and carrying every limb. Did she ever become injured from their technique?

WiddlinDiddlin · 19/10/2024 20:46

How do you think people should move another human who is refusing to be moved?

Yes, there are proper restraint and handling techniques. That doesn't mean they won't involve someone being manhandled and dragged if thats necessary.

toomuchfaff · 19/10/2024 20:52

YABU
Just what are you expecting when she needs to be removed from a room for safety reasons and she is refusing?

MartinCrieffsLemon · 19/10/2024 21:15

Would you rather they left her there when it wasn't safe???

XenoBitch · 20/10/2024 01:37

Was she under section? It sounds like she was as staff can't touch you if you are not.
And from experience with myself, and others, people ill enough to be under section will remember things differently to what actually happened... or make it sound worse than it actually was.
I was removed from my room by being lifted up by several people... but it makes sense that someone that was already on the floor would be dragged out too.

I hope things are better for you DD now.

CallMeFlo · 20/10/2024 02:55

To be fair you're getting a historic account of this. A time when your daughter was clearly very unwell. Her version of events might be very vivid & accurate to her, but probably not how they happened

If she was being uncooperative the staff have probably used the correct procedures but her recollection will be different

twodoorsup · 20/10/2024 03:02

Unfortunately YABU, I can only imagine it's horrible to picture your child in this situation but as others have said you are getting a story in hindsight from their perspective. They will have been, by the sounds of it, acting fast and within guidelines for the safety of everyone. I hope you are doing ok.

WiddlinDiddlin · 20/10/2024 03:31

Restraint and handling techniques are about minimising the risk of injury to both the patient and the care giver.

That doesn't mean it isn't scary, painful or won't result in injury though, sometimes its going to be a 'better this than that' situation.

I think it is tempting to think that care givers in these wards/facilities have super powers that allow them to get combative and non-compliant patients to do as they are asked with zero stress. It just isn't possible.

TartfulRidesAgain2 · 20/10/2024 06:47

On the surface it does not seem ideal but going deeper, depending on the nature of her illness IE paranoid delusions etc, was she prone to any sort of delusional thoughts while she was an in patient? Is there a possibility her recollection of what happened may be confused? Presumably a mental health in patient setting is going to be quite heavily camera'd for the safety of all parties concerned. If she needed to be removed from a room for her own safety but was not complying then it may not be unexpected that firmer methods were employed to keep her safe. Was she injured or marked during these episodes?

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/10/2024 16:55

I'm sorry. Both for her and you. It must be distressing to hear. Is she struggling to process what happened?

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