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18 replies

FlippertyFlopperty · 18/10/2024 06:25

Adil Ray on Good Morning Britain just said his cohost Charlotte not letting a dog upstairs or in her bed was like apartheid. Eeeek. I like Adil, but eeeek!

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ThereForTheTaking · 18/10/2024 06:30

I suspect it was a joke... not a literal comparison.

TheNeverEndingOver · 18/10/2024 06:32

Don’t worry. I imagine he was joking.

FlippertyFlopperty · 18/10/2024 06:36

I did actually laugh but I know some viewers will be offended!

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Wherehasallthetimegone · 18/10/2024 06:40

If it was a joke it wasn't funny and was offensive.

NutellaEllaElla · 18/10/2024 06:43

Sounds like a joke to me! Let’s not be puritans, we’re allowed to joke, right?

LBFseBrom · 18/10/2024 06:50

FlippertyFlopperty · 18/10/2024 06:36

I did actually laugh but I know some viewers will be offended!

I doubt anyone would be offended, it was a lighthearted remark.

Wherehasallthetimegone · 18/10/2024 06:55

LBFseBrom · 18/10/2024 06:50

I doubt anyone would be offended, it was a lighthearted remark.

I don't see anything light hearted about apartheid.
I'm surprised pp are so happy to minimise the feelings of people who have lived through and had experience of apartheid.

ClytemnestraWasMisunderstood · 18/10/2024 06:57

Don't be daft. It wasva joke, not an admission of some nefarious behaviour

MyKidsAreTooNoisy · 18/10/2024 06:57

I wouldn’t be offended but it’s interesting to think about. You can’t make jokes about the holocaust but you can make jokes about apartheid. Obviously the former is more horrific, but they are both shameful and terrible events in human history. So what is the boundary of acceptability when making jokes.

Wherehasallthetimegone · 18/10/2024 07:08

MyKidsAreTooNoisy · 18/10/2024 06:57

I wouldn’t be offended but it’s interesting to think about. You can’t make jokes about the holocaust but you can make jokes about apartheid. Obviously the former is more horrific, but they are both shameful and terrible events in human history. So what is the boundary of acceptability when making jokes.

I think that is a good point about it being apparently acceptable to joke about apartheid but not acceptable to joke about the holocaust.

Both are horrific in their own ways.

I wonder if the pp who are minimising apartheid on here also find jokes at the expense of eg disability funny?

I know some people think anything is fair game when it comes to humour but I'm not one of them.

NutellaEllaElla · 18/10/2024 07:39

Yes, jokes are made about awful things all the time and have been since the dawn of time. You must not be friends with any doctors.

NutellaEllaElla · 18/10/2024 07:39

Or soldiers

ThereForTheTaking · 18/10/2024 07:59

MyKidsAreTooNoisy · 18/10/2024 06:57

I wouldn’t be offended but it’s interesting to think about. You can’t make jokes about the holocaust but you can make jokes about apartheid. Obviously the former is more horrific, but they are both shameful and terrible events in human history. So what is the boundary of acceptability when making jokes.

I didn't see it buti suppose it depends who the joke is at the expense of.

In this case, it sounds like the presenter was making an off the cuff, joke at the expense of the perpetrators rather than the victims.

In many cases, humour is how people deal with the worst of humanity.

I did actually laugh but I know some viewers will be offended!

So you thought it was funny but also came on here to complain about it? Confused

You can't assume offence of behalf of others.

temperedolive · 18/10/2024 08:03

MyKidsAreTooNoisy · 18/10/2024 06:57

I wouldn’t be offended but it’s interesting to think about. You can’t make jokes about the holocaust but you can make jokes about apartheid. Obviously the former is more horrific, but they are both shameful and terrible events in human history. So what is the boundary of acceptability when making jokes.

It's the difference between making jokes about victims vs. perpetrators. People make jokes about the Nazis all the time. The Producers is a whole movie and musical that are long nazi jokes, there's the song about Hilter's balls, the famous Mitchell and Webb skits, etc. You just don't make fun of the victims.

Valeriekat · 18/10/2024 08:49

MyKidsAreTooNoisy · 18/10/2024 06:57

I wouldn’t be offended but it’s interesting to think about. You can’t make jokes about the holocaust but you can make jokes about apartheid. Obviously the former is more horrific, but they are both shameful and terrible events in human history. So what is the boundary of acceptability when making jokes.

No! You cannot make jokes about apartheid.

Dramatic · 18/10/2024 08:52

It's a bit of a dodgy area and a very weird joke/comparison to make. Why on earth did he even think to say it? Strange.

NutellaEllaElla · 19/10/2024 20:12

Valeriekat · 18/10/2024 08:49

No! You cannot make jokes about apartheid.

I saw people online making jokes about that One Direction guy. You (and I) may find it to be bad taste, but it’s freedom of speech and it’s a particular sense of humour. Live and let live.

KrisAkabusi · 19/10/2024 20:29

Valeriekat · 18/10/2024 08:49

No! You cannot make jokes about apartheid.

Maybe you should tell Trevor Noah that. He's built a very successful career by doing just that.

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