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A woman shouldn't be leader of the Opposition because she has young children

54 replies

Reugny · 17/10/2024 15:11

According to Sir Christopher Chope, 77, Ms Badenoch should not be Tory leader as she has young children.

Is he a dinosaur? Vote YANBU if you think he is.

OP posts:
DiscontentedPig · 17/10/2024 15:13

Chope objects to everything, that's his purpose in life.

randomchap · 17/10/2024 15:14

Chope is an arse, a complete and total one

Duckduckgoose24 · 17/10/2024 15:14

Can't win. If she didn't have kids that would be thrown at her, like they did with Kamala Harris in the US.

She shouldn't be opposition leader as she's not good at it. Not that I mind, as I've don't vote Tory so she can burn the party down if she likes.

DreadPirateRobots · 17/10/2024 15:15

If a man who doesn't know quite how many children he has can be prime minister, a woman with young children sure as hell can be.

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/10/2024 15:15

I still can't believe that stupid fucking buffoon held onto his seat.

ContactNightmare · 17/10/2024 15:15

Fairs fair. I think she would incompetent with or without children. As indeed her male predecessors were

saltandvinegarchipsticks · 17/10/2024 15:15

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/10/2024 15:15

I still can't believe that stupid fucking buffoon held onto his seat.

Because he lives in an area full of stupid fucking buffoons.

ilovesooty · 17/10/2024 15:16

I don't think Kemi Badenoch is fit to lead a political party but not for that reason.

Chope is utterly foul.

FictionalCharacter · 17/10/2024 15:16

MissScarletInTheBallroom · 17/10/2024 15:15

I still can't believe that stupid fucking buffoon held onto his seat.

Indeed. Imagine thinking “this is exactly the person I want representing me in Parliament”. He’s said some absolutely foul things.

unsync · 17/10/2024 15:17

Chope, he's the upskirting idiot, isn't he?

Sunpill · 17/10/2024 15:17

Well partly right, she shouldn’t be but for entirely different reasons.
but on his reasoning, he probably doesn’t even believe it, he’s an attention seeker, chopr would argue grass isn’t green if it got him some lines in a paper, he’s a prick.

AgnesX · 17/10/2024 15:17

As much as I dislike Badenoch he's a daft old trout who's as misogynistic as hell.

ContactNightmare · 17/10/2024 15:18

I’d say Chope and Badenoch are very similar. Like being contentious, gets them attention. Quite funny really and since he’s just survived an election then obviously has quite a lot of support.

biscuitcat · 17/10/2024 15:18

An especially stupid point as Robert Jenrick also has three kids... maybe children only make women inappropriate candidates, who knows!

Getitwright · 17/10/2024 15:20

Chope is just a stupid dinosaur. But I am very concerned about those who vote for him. Like those who vote for Trump. Blinkered, unintelligent, bigoted.

poetryandwine · 17/10/2024 15:22

I find KB’s views abhorrent and think she would make an awful leader. However it has nothing to do with her maternal status. Chope is if anything worse

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 17/10/2024 15:23

Duckduckgoose24 · 17/10/2024 15:14

Can't win. If she didn't have kids that would be thrown at her, like they did with Kamala Harris in the US.

She shouldn't be opposition leader as she's not good at it. Not that I mind, as I've don't vote Tory so she can burn the party down if she likes.

This is true - women simply can’t win!

I think Kemi Badenoch will be a disastrous leader of the opposition as she is incompetent, but it’s nothing to do with having children.

Reugny · 17/10/2024 15:25

Duckduckgoose24 · 17/10/2024 15:14

Can't win. If she didn't have kids that would be thrown at her, like they did with Kamala Harris in the US.

She shouldn't be opposition leader as she's not good at it. Not that I mind, as I've don't vote Tory so she can burn the party down if she likes.

Tories have their own history of having a problem with child-free married women.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36752865

Theresa May and Andrea Leadsom

Andrea Leadsom 'motherhood' comments spark row

The Times claims Andrea Leadsom suggested being a mother gave her the "edge" over leadership rival Theresa May, but the Tory candidate insists she has been misrepresented.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-36752865

OP posts:
ContactNightmare · 17/10/2024 15:25

Whatever you think, Chope is not a stupid man and I find faintly ironic that Kemi Badenoch, who is often going on about cuts to child care provision or maternity pay should be recast as a glorious maternal figure who cannot help but be distracted by her children. He is taking the piss out of her

SinnerBoy · 17/10/2024 15:31

unsync · Today 15:17

Yes, the objectionable son of Jabba the Hut voted against making upskirting a crime. He then lied and claimed that he always voted against ten minute bills, before it came out that he'd voted for a number, brought by his chums.

He and Jenrick signed authorisations for each other, for funds for the poorest cities, which neither of them represent. Yes, they took away millions from a fund for the poorest areas in the country and spent it in their leafy areas.

Chrysalistastic · 17/10/2024 15:31

I can think of many reasons why KB shouldn't be party leader but having young children certainly isn't one of them.

SinnerBoy · 17/10/2024 15:32

I agree, Chrys.

Beekeepingmum · 17/10/2024 15:46

She'll do fine as Leader of the Opposition for bit. I recently heard that the Tories only now need 15 people to write of a letter to the 1922 committee to call for a chance so I suspect we will have new leaders every few months like they did in government.

DisappearingGirl · 17/10/2024 15:48

I mean, it's a ridiculous thing to say.

But it's also just the kind of thing Kemi Badenoch would say.

The Tories seem to be falling over themselves to out-rightwing each other.

Toseland · 17/10/2024 15:51

I'm hoping Kemi will be the next leader of Torys as I think she really understands the awful danger women's rights are currently in.
Chope seems quite desperate to find anything he can to sling at her.