Meet the Other Phone. Child-safe in minutes.

Meet the Other Phone.
Child-safe in minutes.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

AIBU?

Share your dilemmas and get honest opinions from other Mumsnetters.

To not host DM at Christmas

23 replies

Sweetcreamtea · 16/10/2024 14:49

I know I'll get slated here, as I feel like such a bad person even writing this. Me and dm have had our fair share of disagreements over the years and are very different people. I think we have tolerated each other because we are family, but I know i am not the dd she wanted; it just sort of goes unspoken. We love each other (not sure the other way as feel she doesn't really know what it fully is) and buy thoughtful gifts etc but it feels like it is going through the motions without the feeling behind it if that makes sense. I have never ever had that close mother daughter relationship I saw my friends have with their dms growing up. She was quite cold and hard towards me, and I never felt loved, she always favoured my older sibling; I think this is because they're more alike.
We do get on better now, but i never feel that I can truly be myself, no matter what I do for her it never feels enough. Dm will thank me at the time, and be grateful but then 5 minutes later she will rave on and on about what my sibling has done despite not requiring as much effort, and has this way of making me feeling like what I have done isn't enough. It seems to bring an insecurity from my childhood up in me. I always tried to buy her love growing up, get her the best gifts etc.

Sadly she divorced my df a lot of years ago, fair enough, she wasn't happy. DF, and I were very close, and he passed before last Christmas and I had my dm over, hosted, made dinner and the works. All I wanted to do was curl in a ball. She over stayed, was here all day, and only thought about herself. I ended up comforting her about her dm who had passed 25 years ago and about df who she hadn't bothered with for years after the divorce, because she didn't need him anymore, she had her bf at the time who could drive her about.
On Christmas day we had to tell dm we needed to drop her home now, and she seemed disappointed. My dcs were tired, it was very late, i wasnt feeling well ( have a chronic illness) and dc1 is ND. They love her, but even they were ready to have some time just us.
I have to parent more when dm is here because the youngest gets over excited and irritates dm eventually, the oldest one doesn't respond the way she would like, and i feel i have to constantly make apologies for this. He is ND, yet every time at the end of her visit, she will say "give grandma a kiss, he will say "no", she seems hurt by this. I don't believe in forced affection. He hates surprises, yet still dm expects him to like these things, and too much fuss. i have to repeatedly tell youngest dc to settle down, grandma needs a rest now.

DM hasn't babysat (apart from one time when dc1 was a baby), complained to no end about it, left the house a mess, and couldn't cope. I have never asked her for anything and have left home at 19 . She hasn't been there for me as an adult, but expects everyone there for her. I feel like I have parented my parent, giving advice about her bf, but not getting much the other way etc. I see everybody else with their put together mothers who support them, and I don't understand what I am doing wrong. I just feel so inadequate. When I have dm over she stays the entire day, and it is draining, I'd rather she came over more regularly than do this.

This year I want Christmas just me, dh and the dcs, I don't want to host her. She wouldn't be alone, has a relative she can spend the day with who she spends alot of time with, and my sibling who should be inviting her given the sun shines out of said sibling.

I'm a bitch aren't I?

OP posts:
SweetLimeSoda · 16/10/2024 14:52

No, you're not a bitch. Your feelings are justified. It would be an excellent idea to let her know now that you won't be able to host Christmas this year.

padsi1975 · 16/10/2024 14:54

No, you're not.

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/10/2024 14:54

I'm a bitch aren't I?

If you're a bitch I must be a mega-super-huge bitch because I wouldn't have put up with a tenth of that.

Channel a mother bear, look after your cubs if you can't look after yourself. Tell her today that it's just your little family for Christmas, then have an early mince pie and a glass of Baileys and relax.

Gotosleep91 · 16/10/2024 14:58

In my experience you'll get people here saying they miss their mums and wish they could spend another Christmas with them and you should be grateful she's here 'because she's your mum'

However I think YANBU. I have a similar relationship with mine. She lives abroad and every year she books a flight over a few days before Christmas without discussing it. so I'm basically rail loaded into hosting because I can't very well say 'you can't stay for Christmas, Mother - go home to your empty house'

As yours has other people to fall back on I would absolutely say 'we are having Xmas day just us this year but you are welcome to drop in Christmas eve or boxing day' and leave it at that

Toomanywars · 16/10/2024 15:00

SweetLimeSoda · 16/10/2024 14:52

No, you're not a bitch. Your feelings are justified. It would be an excellent idea to let her know now that you won't be able to host Christmas this year.

Let her know now.

Wouldn't it be lovely for your sister to host this year.

Mary46 · 16/10/2024 15:06

Hi op not easy when family difficult. Have it myself. We have her xmas day. I dont get into overnights. As you say its hard going.

MrsTerryPratchett · 16/10/2024 15:07

Toomanywars · 16/10/2024 15:00

Let her know now.

Wouldn't it be lovely for your sister to host this year.

I'm assuming brother with the the Golden Child syndrome and lack of hosting. Could be wrong...

FireMyLogs · 16/10/2024 15:07

Put your own family first, this is what my Mum did when we were little, just us on Christmas day. She told me when I had children I could do the same. We don't we still all come together however my Mum was not a black hole of negativity, she was a freaking delight. Very unlike your Mum. So even though I have lost my Mum, I wouldn't want Christmas with your Mum

My paternal Grandmother was a black hole of negativity, criticised us, told us how amazing her other grandchildren were. I am glad we were shielded from her at Christmas.

Give her a heads up now. You know she will be shitty about it but so what, she is shitty either way, either before or on the actual day. Your children deserve a Christmas with just their parents, no stress, no expectations from other adults or disappointment from other adults. Do it, prepare that message or phone call. Remember to just keep repeating the same line over and over no matter what she says. We are not having any visitors on Christmas day, repeat.

ChoccieCornflake · 16/10/2024 15:11

"I see everybody else with their put together mothers who support them, and I don't understand what I am doing wrong. "

Er, nope. You are doing nothing wrong - she's the one not being a good mum! You can't make her into something she's not - all you can do is be the best mum to your kids, and it sounds like not having your mother there on Christmas day would work for your family!

Theoldbird · 16/10/2024 15:16

Sweetcreamtea · 16/10/2024 14:49

I know I'll get slated here, as I feel like such a bad person even writing this. Me and dm have had our fair share of disagreements over the years and are very different people. I think we have tolerated each other because we are family, but I know i am not the dd she wanted; it just sort of goes unspoken. We love each other (not sure the other way as feel she doesn't really know what it fully is) and buy thoughtful gifts etc but it feels like it is going through the motions without the feeling behind it if that makes sense. I have never ever had that close mother daughter relationship I saw my friends have with their dms growing up. She was quite cold and hard towards me, and I never felt loved, she always favoured my older sibling; I think this is because they're more alike.
We do get on better now, but i never feel that I can truly be myself, no matter what I do for her it never feels enough. Dm will thank me at the time, and be grateful but then 5 minutes later she will rave on and on about what my sibling has done despite not requiring as much effort, and has this way of making me feeling like what I have done isn't enough. It seems to bring an insecurity from my childhood up in me. I always tried to buy her love growing up, get her the best gifts etc.

Sadly she divorced my df a lot of years ago, fair enough, she wasn't happy. DF, and I were very close, and he passed before last Christmas and I had my dm over, hosted, made dinner and the works. All I wanted to do was curl in a ball. She over stayed, was here all day, and only thought about herself. I ended up comforting her about her dm who had passed 25 years ago and about df who she hadn't bothered with for years after the divorce, because she didn't need him anymore, she had her bf at the time who could drive her about.
On Christmas day we had to tell dm we needed to drop her home now, and she seemed disappointed. My dcs were tired, it was very late, i wasnt feeling well ( have a chronic illness) and dc1 is ND. They love her, but even they were ready to have some time just us.
I have to parent more when dm is here because the youngest gets over excited and irritates dm eventually, the oldest one doesn't respond the way she would like, and i feel i have to constantly make apologies for this. He is ND, yet every time at the end of her visit, she will say "give grandma a kiss, he will say "no", she seems hurt by this. I don't believe in forced affection. He hates surprises, yet still dm expects him to like these things, and too much fuss. i have to repeatedly tell youngest dc to settle down, grandma needs a rest now.

DM hasn't babysat (apart from one time when dc1 was a baby), complained to no end about it, left the house a mess, and couldn't cope. I have never asked her for anything and have left home at 19 . She hasn't been there for me as an adult, but expects everyone there for her. I feel like I have parented my parent, giving advice about her bf, but not getting much the other way etc. I see everybody else with their put together mothers who support them, and I don't understand what I am doing wrong. I just feel so inadequate. When I have dm over she stays the entire day, and it is draining, I'd rather she came over more regularly than do this.

This year I want Christmas just me, dh and the dcs, I don't want to host her. She wouldn't be alone, has a relative she can spend the day with who she spends alot of time with, and my sibling who should be inviting her given the sun shines out of said sibling.

I'm a bitch aren't I?

No you're not a bitch, that's a horrible thing to say about yourself. Your dm sounds like hard work, and since she has a favourite child, there's no reason for her to spend xmas alone.

LlynTegid · 16/10/2024 15:19

Perfectly reasonable not to, you could even dress it up as an opportunity for her to have a different Christmas as your DM will spend it with someone else.

Mercurysinretrograde · 16/10/2024 15:26

If you will find it hard to say no and there’s a risk she may just appear. then rent a cottage somewhere in the countryside for Christmas and tell DM sorry, you will be out of town so won’t see her this year.

Irridescantshimmmer · 16/10/2024 15:26

You are an amazing person who has been to hell and back with your dm.

Have xmas without her of you wish, you more than earned it.

Chocolatebunny61 · 20/10/2024 15:16

I think you’re amazing to have done what you’ve done for so long to be honest and you shouldn’t feel the slightest bit guilty about just having Christmas with your own family. I grew up in a family like this and tried all my life to please my mum and to just be recognised as good enough. I could never do it though and I realise now that by going back for more I gave her the opportunity to knock me back again. I have suffered with low self esteem all my life as a result of being the underdog to the golden child. She died last year aged 95 and tbh I just felt relieved because she couldn’t put me down any more and it was like a weight had been lifted. Don’t feel guilty for putting yourself and your own family first.

Manthide · 20/10/2024 15:43

It's totally up to you who you spend Christmas with and it sounds like it's your sibling's turn! We usually go to my parents for Christmas dinner and last year they also had my elder 2dd, their dhs and my gs staying with them as they have a larger house. If they choose not to host none of us would make them feel bad. Who knows we might even host them! This year will be a much smaller event as both dds are going to their respective ils (with my new gc) and my brother died this year.

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 20/10/2024 15:49

@Sweetcreamtea wouldnt even mention christmas to her!! she can go to the sibling who has the sun hanging out her arse!!

Mog65 · 20/10/2024 16:08

I'd tell your dear sibling it is her turn to host your mum this year. Then tell your mum too.

MrsTerryPratchett · 20/10/2024 16:22

@Sweetcreamtea did you tell her?

MrsWallers · 20/10/2024 16:27

Hi OP
Complex issues with christmas and family here too
I have hosted and bent over backwards many times and been met with criticism, rudeness and bad manners
This year we have decided no hosting despite my brother booking his flights with his wife and 3 girls without discusing it with any of us
Husband drafted this yesterday which I love:

The Wallington hotel, cafe and restaurant will be closed this christmas and new year for a private small family event

Sweetcreamtea · 20/10/2024 16:31

Manthide · 20/10/2024 15:43

It's totally up to you who you spend Christmas with and it sounds like it's your sibling's turn! We usually go to my parents for Christmas dinner and last year they also had my elder 2dd, their dhs and my gs staying with them as they have a larger house. If they choose not to host none of us would make them feel bad. Who knows we might even host them! This year will be a much smaller event as both dds are going to their respective ils (with my new gc) and my brother died this year.

Thank you, aww it sounds like you have such amazing big family Christmases! You should definately have your parents back, but they may decline, they might like doing it, or they may think woo hoo!!

I've been cooking Christmas Dinner since I was 19, and I'm now 39 so 20 years (I/we have hosted 15 of them). Always had my parents, one or the other, sometimes both before dm met her bf. Sibling did reluctantly have one of them for the ones where I was heavily pregnant, just had a baby, and unwell with the chronic illness that came on after dc1 was born (about 4 or 5). Last year I had arranged to have by df, which I was looking forward to, then he died and I had dm instead. This year I don't want dm, just don't want fuss, miss my df and wish he could come over for it. I just want a lazy day with dh, I and the dcs, no fuss.

Sorry about your db💐

OP posts:
Sweetcreamtea · 20/10/2024 16:35

allthemiddlechildrenoftheworld · 20/10/2024 15:49

@Sweetcreamtea wouldnt even mention christmas to her!! she can go to the sibling who has the sun hanging out her arse!!

Yes, I haven't said anything to her, she has guaranteed other places to go, so it wouldn't inconvenience and she knows she wouldn't only be coming to us, if I asked. Christmas in general has been mentioned, and I have sensed an undertone of awkwardness because I haven't asked her!!

OP posts:
Sweetcreamtea · 20/10/2024 16:38

Mog65 · 20/10/2024 16:08

I'd tell your dear sibling it is her turn to host your mum this year. Then tell your mum too.

Sibling has been known to be more than happy to leave a parent on their own on Christmas in the past, I always had them because I couldn't see somebody on their own. One year I was heavily pregnant and had to beg sibling to have one of them and not go to inlaws to be hosted for, just for one bloody year.
I am hoping woth df's passing and sibling being older that this would no longer be the case. Dm can go to her sister's though as well.

OP posts:
Manthide · 20/10/2024 16:47

@Sweetcreamtea Aww sounds like you need to look after yourself and your family this year. Christmas will be strange without db ( he was ND and was always at our parents). I'm 59 and I think I've only cooked one Christmas dinner and that was when we were living abroad and my parents were staying with us. I'm sort of hoping the baton will be taken up by one of my dc. I've still got one at school and one at uni so they'll be with us this year. Wishing you a peaceful Christmas!

New posts on this thread. Refresh page