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To expect to see more women supporting other women?

33 replies

WhimsicalGubbins76 · 14/10/2024 23:02

Just as the title says really. Women have faced centuries of abuse and misogyny from the opposite sex, but if we’re being really, brutally honest, we’re often awful to each other. I see it in these boards every day-most women are supportive, yes. But you also see so many that just jump into the comments to throw about abuse like it’s a sport. How many comments do you see that have been removed by MNHQ? How many spats do you see breaking out in the comments? How many derogatory remarks? I’m not claiming to be innocent, I’ve risen to it when goaded, I’ve called people out for being a troll poster. But why do we do it? We should be lifting each other, not knocking each other down.

YABU- It’s just the way the world is, get over it
YANBU- yes women should stick up for each other and support each other more

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MrsTerryPratchett · 15/10/2024 01:28

Inspireme2 · 15/10/2024 00:12

Give me a male boss any day! 🤣

God no. My two best bosses were female. And the worst by a mile was an under qualified wanker man who was promoted to the point of his incompetence. He still hates that I went from his underling to being above him in another organisation and he has to come, cap in hand, to ask me for things.

Fucker.

LimeQuoter · 15/10/2024 01:37

I completely agree with you. The thought has crossed my own mind a few times. We should be supporting each other and sticking up for each other more

BalletCat · 17/10/2024 23:58

I find that the sisterhood is rare to find and most women are bitchy, competitive and only like you as long as you aren't doing better than them. I don't get any support from most women in my life I get snide remarks and one upmanship or jealousy if I'm doing better than them or judgement if I'm not doing as good as them. On the flip side most of the men in my life are very kind to me and are caring in a gentlemanly way.

I have a small group of female friends who are ride or die but most just can't stand other women being better than them so try to tear eachother down. I much prefer a male dominated work team, when you get too many women together in one place all hell breaks loose.

As a new mother I've found very little support from other women, mostly judgement about feeding/how I have birth or snide comments about the fact my baby sleeps well so I clearly don't really know what motherhood is like or I would look knackered and rough because that's the way it's supposed to be! I've honestly even had a bitchy comment about my hair looking nice because I shouldn't have time to do my hair and they looked a mess when their baby was the same age so fuck me! Honestly the mind boggles.

It would be nice if women could be nicer to eachother but I don't see it happening.

NewName24 · 18/10/2024 00:10

How sad @BalletCat

That is the complete opposite of my many years of meeting people from all sorts of different backgrounds.

GreyCarpet · 18/10/2024 05:37

LimeQuoter · 15/10/2024 01:37

I completely agree with you. The thought has crossed my own mind a few times. We should be supporting each other and sticking up for each other more

What would_should this look like though?

Women hold the full range of world views, beliefs and attitudes; women are critical thinkers and also have limited critical thinking skills; women make good decisions and women make bad decisions.

Would you really stick up for someone and support them no matter what purely because they were a woman?

BadPeopleFan · 18/10/2024 06:07

Surely this kind of thinking send women backwards? If we blindly support something because of the 'sisterhood' where do we draw the line...a woman abusing her children just needs my support and it will all be okay?
We also need to remember that some women are arseholes (I could be one of those depending on who you are/what day it is/how you take to my personality etc) we are not all meek, demure lovely creatures wafting around bringing up families while smelling of roses!
It is too simplistic to say we should support someone because they are a woman.

Mrsredlipstick · 18/10/2024 06:30

I am a feminist and a woman. I support women if they are being abused for being a woman. I support men if they are decent, kind, respectful.
However I have seen the nasty side of MN with personal abusive posts directed at me with a totally made up dialogue.
I no longer comment on the FWR board due to the constant aggression. The posters are definitely women but their utter refusal to engage with an alternative view is beyond me.
Not all women are nice. I work in a female dominated industry hence the user name however as with another pp my best bosses have been women.

LimeQuoter · 19/10/2024 21:17

GreyCarpet That's true. Maybe when we see a woman being laughed at or put down by a guy, we could reassure her or help her defend herself. There's far too much casual sexism around and a lot of women believe it and internalise it and many others shrug it off like it doesn't matter, when it does affect them inside. They are on autopilot because it's being happening for years

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