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Would you buy this house?

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UniqueShaker · 12/10/2024 21:39

Hi all,

Just as the title says really…

we originally put an offer in on this house (asking price) and tried to ignore our concerns as we loved it that much, but unfortunately somebody else’s offer got accepted (they had less of a chain issue etc and were more desirable buyers). I was absolutely heartbroken but over the last few weeks got my head around it and told myself it was for the best anyway.

basically, we are looking to relocate closer to family - myself, my partner and two young children. We found the house of our dreams just around the corner from our family.

I walked in and instantly saw us pottering around in there. It felt like it really could be our home. It ticked all the boxes, minus an extra bedroom for other family to stay in but our children would still have a playroom (which is something we have considered we may not get in our next property as house prices are higher in that area) and we figured a sofa bed in there would do the trick. The location was perfect, the plot of land it is on is large with incredible views and is more than we could have imagined to find when we first started house hunting. We pictured camping out in the garden with the kids in the summers evenings in this house and really set our hearts on it.

now don’t get me wrong, it’s not perfect and not to everybody’s taste, but it most certainly is to ours. It’s just slightly over budget but we figured we could stretch and it would be worth it as it would most likely be our forever home. I do not want to move again any time soon!

we spent an hour talking to the current owners. Then we started to feel a bit suspicious of the reason on their sale. When I asked the reason for their sale they both stuttered and said to move nearer to family, just down the road - literally a few streets away. They basically listed the house around 12-18 months after purchasing. I found the old listing and they have made the house beautiful but it strikes suspicion really. They haven’t done anything to make me think they’ve done it up to ‘profit’ - just a change of decor and carpets and a new bathroom and a render as the main points. The house was built in the early 1800s and I asked the seller if they’ve had any damp issues. Response was ‘none was picked up on the surveyors report’ - it didn’t answer my question really. I asked have YOU had any damp issues. He then went on to tell me they’d had a PIV unit (for condensation, damp and mould) installed and alarm bells started ringing for us. He then continued to tell us he has ‘allergies’ so it’s been really beneficial for that. And then said when they moved in there was condensation because nobody had lived there for a long time.

I can’t help but wonder if they’re selling so quickly because they’ve found the house to be problematic. Current owner was pregnant too which made me even more suspicious because the house was plenty large to not have to worry about moving anytime soon.

we absolutely love the house. But I’ve had damp issues in a house before and it was a nightmare. i know it can happen in any house but I’d like to avoid buying another one with the same issue if i can.

this house is absolutely perfect. And for what we can get for our money there is a whole lot of house and land which could be a forever home. The location is perfect for us. To achieve anything close to this on size we’d have to consider a further drive from family in slightly ‘less desirable areas’ or a smaller house in the same area. But I feel like walking away from this dream because it feels to risky. I don’t feel they have underpriced the house for a quick sale, I think the price is reflective of the things that others wouldn’t find desirable about it - things that don’t bother us.

The estate agent rang me and told me the people who had placed an offer have now pulled out. They said reason is: they were getting a gifted deposit and the gifter is no longer gifting… I mean my first thought was did the buyers not like the surveyors report… but would the estate agent lie about this?

aibu to not go ahead and put an offer on this house? We’ve been looking for almost a year and properly for the last 6 months and nothing compares. Anything else like this is too far above budget.

I can’t help but wonder if I’m talking myself out of it because I have had to do over the last few weeks thinking it had become someone else’s, or if I’m being really sensible by admitting that it’s just too risky.

what would you do?

OP posts:
Barrenfieldoffucks · 12/10/2024 21:41

They may all sorts of reasons they don't want to share.

Get a full structural survey and searches and proceed accordingly.

And post a link!

Rainrainngoaway · 12/10/2024 21:42

To be fair it’s none of your business why they are moving. Ultimately make an offer, get a survey and if there’s damp make a decision. There are a billion reasons why someone moves and they don’t need to share it with you

EsmeSusanOgg · 12/10/2024 21:44

The vague, evasive answers is suspicious. Worth asking the neighbours if you are still interested.

AlertCat · 12/10/2024 21:48

Get a survey, ask the surveyor to check for damp, make an offer based on anything that comes up. You love the house and damp can be fixed for a forever home, surely?

SquishyGloopyBum · 12/10/2024 21:53

You say they rendered it- that can cause damp.

Get a surveyor but one that deals with historic properties to look at the damp issues. Not just a run of the mill surveyor or one who offers free damp inspections.

Can you see/smell damp at all?

Motomum23 · 12/10/2024 21:53

If they installed an anti damp unit there's damp
Every house I have ever lived in has had damp problems though, literally every single one.
Keep on top of dehumidifiers - pull furniture away from the walls regularly and spray mould cleaner. Then it's fine. But go in expecting damp.

UniqueShaker · 12/10/2024 21:55

AlertCat · 12/10/2024 21:48

Get a survey, ask the surveyor to check for damp, make an offer based on anything that comes up. You love the house and damp can be fixed for a forever home, surely?

This is what our initial thoughts were. That we can fix the problems, it’s about the location and the plot being right for our forever home. I feel I may have shifted my mind towards negativity fixating on our ‘concerns’ because I had to program my mind to feel that way about it over when we lost it the first time round to someone else. Hmm, it’s really making me think I should bite the bullet and place an offer again and see what happens on the surveyors report. I think I may regret it if I don’t…

OP posts:
LindorDoubleChoc · 12/10/2024 21:59

Is there a link to the house in that too long OP?

Oopsadaysie · 12/10/2024 22:00

I think the same as @Motomum23.

Abitofalark · 12/10/2024 22:06

"But I’ve had damp issues in a house before and it was a nightmare. i know it can happen in any house but I’d like to avoid buying another one with the same issue if i can."

Dotto · 12/10/2024 22:10

Of course the estate agent would lie, it's what they do, in my experience.

Trust your gut, things don't add up. I wouldn't bother paying for a survey, they're not foolproof.

There's some fishy reason everyone is running away. If it's not damp it will be something else, like nightmare neighbours.

Mandylovescandy · 12/10/2024 22:17

We had terrible problem with damp and mould until got PIV unit and no issues since so even if there were issues might no longer be

TwistedSisters · 12/10/2024 22:24

If you don't get a full structural survey done, you'll always be wondering 'what if'.

I don't particularly think vague answers about why they're selling are anything suspicious though, it's not really anything to do with you and there are hundreds of potential reasons.

I've never lived in a house with damp though and tbf it would put me off.

Attelina · 12/10/2024 22:24

Get a top notch surveyor as the house is very old.

Ohnobackagain · 12/10/2024 22:24

@UniqueShaker actual damp should show up in full survey. Our older house has no damp. But we do get condensation and if we could afford one of those ventilation systems you can have in the loft, we would - which the house you want now has. Also, new homes now have to be airtight and so will have condensation if you don’t open windows. I would put in your offer and go for it but have full survey and get it done by a surveyor with experience of damp. Or get a builder to look as well.

I had no idea that our house would have the condensation it does as soon as you hit autumn but I just make sure to wipe everything down, have a window open a crack and so on. Still love it here!

Tangelablue · 12/10/2024 22:26

Am I the only one whose first thought was that the house is haunted?

Tel12 · 12/10/2024 22:43

Rainrainngoaway · 12/10/2024 21:42

To be fair it’s none of your business why they are moving. Ultimately make an offer, get a survey and if there’s damp make a decision. There are a billion reasons why someone moves and they don’t need to share it with you

If course it's the purchasers business. Eg noisy neighbours, rising damp, boundary disputes, barking dogs. If you are asked the question and have been untruthful it can cause no end of problems. I'd also ask about subsidence. In this case especially as it has been rendered.

Workiswork · 12/10/2024 22:58

Hey - I’ve had damp but wasn’t in a historic property. I had a professional damp inspection and on the back of it fixed a few things and re-opened some ventilation and gradually it disappeared.

could you have a damp inspection as well as survey? And ask specific questions through your lawyers to the vendors, about damp/mould issues and remedies they’ve done. That way it’s more formal?

Is there any timber prevalent through the property that could be affected by rot? (I’m not very technical on this)

i don’t feel I can give advice on whether to go for it. If you went in and sunk a few grand on surveys/lawyers and pulled out and started again, how bad is that for you financially/time wise.

schloss · 12/10/2024 23:02

@UniqueShaker There could be many reasons they are selling, personal reasons which they do not wish to share.

No damp on the survey was a correct answer, not evasive at all - a survey was done and no damp found. You are reading things into the situation which are not there. PIV, yes are used to combat damp (there are better methods imo), but you say one of the owners has allergies, maybe the PIV does not help and they still suffer with allergies, especially if it is a rural property. Many people do not like any condensation, or contribute to its creation by drying washing in the house, not ventilating the house etc, so the PIV was installed.

If it is the correct house for you, put the offer in and proceed as though you would for any other house which includes having a survey. Making sure you instruct a survey with a surveyor who is used to dealing with period properties.

It sounds as though you equate all old houses as being damp - that is very much from the truth.

You are overthinking the situation - the house sounds it is exactly what you want, so be positive, make the offer and make it happen. Old house surveys always show "issues", normally none are major, many are surveyors covering their backsides and most can be fixed.

aveenobambino · 12/10/2024 23:11

We live in a listed thatch property. Apparently the previous tenants moved because of problems with mould / damp. It's secondary glazing with single glazing in one room. We've been here 3 years, we do ventilate the house when we can but obviously it gets cold in the winter so not everyday then. We've never had any damp/mould issues. It was apparently in every room before. The house had a new kitchen/repaint/ensuite/ carpets before we moved in but the extractor fans frankly aren't great so I don't think it's them making the difference.

Bottom line is, it just hasn't been the issue we anticipated. Get a proper solid reliable survey, chat with the neighbours if you can and I'd crack on if you like it enough. I've found with house hunting you can talk yourself out of any property if you really overthink things!!! Good luck

LastNight1Dreamt1WentToManderleyAgain · 12/10/2024 23:24

Tangelablue · 12/10/2024 22:26

Am I the only one whose first thought was that the house is haunted?

It sounds haunted af

PeriPeriMam · 12/10/2024 23:32
  1. Ask to view it again and feel the walls. Smell them if need be!
  2. Hang around the area late at night. You're worried about damp but it might be the neighbours play drums/have loud parties/keep excessive numbers of chickens
  3. if you're buying an older house I strongly strongly recommend reading this before getting your survey done, and before going back there

www.heritage-house.org/damp-and-condensation/managing-damp-in-old-buildings.html

Invisiblyill · 13/10/2024 01:07

You say it's slightly over budget but say it has more room than you thought you'd be able to afford.
So is it on at the same price as comparable properties with more room or significantly cheaper? That would spell alarm bells for me personally as why are they not asking for the price of a 4 bed then for eg?

Also are the neighbouring properties rendered as well? Is this the general style in the area or an addition /replacement? Again not in itself a red flag as so many properties are rendered as part of modernising/updating etc or weather proofing. But for eg majority on my street were built rendered or semi rendered & people have either re-rendered or replaced it over time . From previous sales pic what condition was it in externally? Again it wldnt be the first thing I'd change to a property unless really necessary or I was planning to do up & sell quickly. Has it gone up significantly in value as a result of their input?

I would wonder why they're selling so quickly coupled with all the other flags you've noticed. Agree the new render could cover movement as well - house buying is so bloody fraught!

IME structural surveys though always essential but don't necessarily give you a fully accurate insight on the nature of damp. So much can be covered up & majority of older UK properties are affected in one way or another. The extent of which though often can only be revealed until you actually live in it.

I'd trust your instincts - as previous sale fell through as well & if it was a real buy wouldn't there would be other buyers showing interest? Sorry!

Ohnobackagain · 13/10/2024 09:13

@UniqueShaker I forgot to say, but others are right about tumble or rack drying clothes = can result in mould/condensation. Also rendering - our house is rendered. No issues at all (it’s in keeping with location). An older house is likely to have settled, as ours has. It has some cracks … I really think it’s easy to over think. Even some stuff that sounds scary on a survey isn’t necessarily. If you love it, go for it.

Serene135 · 13/10/2024 09:19

Get a good surveyor and see what comes up. It could be that the house has got damp and they don’t want to bring the baby up there.

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