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Neighbours and parking hell - I've contacted the landlord

101 replies

ValsCupcakes · 09/10/2024 12:14

I live in a square, and about half of those houses are owned and rented out by landlords. I own mine and so do the other half. A woman and her teenage daughter moved in a few months ago. She is divorced and their son lives with her XH. They have upset most people in the time since they arrived, which was in May. There are allocated parking spaces and they don't use them. They just nick everyone else's. They've been heard yelling at a neighbour over parking and calling him a cunt, parking across exits and blocking people in and parking outside others' houses. They have two cars and the daughter who doesn't work has just passed her test and got this Fiat, so the car barely moves, she just dumps it. It was abandoned (literally, it was shocking parking) outside my house last night when I got home after a very long shift at 10pm so I had to park somewhere down the street and get piss wet through walking back to my house and piss wet through walking to the car this morning too. It was left outside someone else's house for about a week last week.

If it is still there when I get home tonight I am going to knock on their door and ask them to shift it and not use my space again. They do have spaces, they just need to use them. I have already messaged the landlord (who gave another neighbour permission to pass on his number) and told him this, and that I will contact him again if they give me a load of abuse.

Am I doing the right thing and if not what would you advise? They've upset at least six separate houses in less than six months!

OP posts:
Whoyoutakingto · 09/10/2024 17:16

Sounds similar to where I live, I rent so am obviously lower than low🤣🤣🤣. There are 10 houses and 17 spaces they are numbered we have one space each and the others for visitors.I am single so use one space and make my son park else where as he has two legs and can ease the parking problem by using them .Other families have up to 4 cars/vans and it’s their offspring who feel entitled to park every where but over the years it has worked out.

JeanLundegaard · 09/10/2024 17:18

wordler · 09/10/2024 17:13

This is exactly my point - OP keeps saying the neighbours have been told by other neighbours but we see that very issue being complained about all the time on here - people wanting to claim the spot in front of their own house and being mad with neighbours who don’t respect that.

Unless these parking bays are marked clearly in some way as privately owned spaces there’s no way for the new neighbours to know that it’s not just people trying to ‘claim’ a communal space.

Precisely, if I was visiting someone woe betide me if I park near the OPs home. But apparently we should all know the parking space for every resident.

lazyarse123 · 09/10/2024 17:26

I'm with you op and yes they sound common. If that's judgy so be it.

sandyhappypeople · 09/10/2024 17:39

ValsCupcakes · 09/10/2024 15:36

@TwinklyAmberOrca I don't really see why I should use their spaces because a) it is not my space b) it is deferring to them and c) the car is out of sight of my house. I had a car stolen earlier this year so I am not putting myself at risk here.

Edited

I don't agree with them at all, but is that why they are choosing to park there, because all your spaces are in front of their house (in sight) and their own spaces are behind their house (out of sight).

It seems really odd that they would choose to use your parking spaces, they must have some sort of reason to do it that they justify to themselves.

LetThereBeLove · 09/10/2024 17:50

MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 09/10/2024 16:40

Unless it's a private road and/or you own the space outside your house then your neighbours aren't actually doing anything wrong.

Do you own the space?

RTFP! OP has mentioned a number of times that she owns the space and it is on her deeds. HTH

JeanLundegaard · 09/10/2024 18:02

LetThereBeLove · 09/10/2024 17:50

RTFP! OP has mentioned a number of times that she owns the space and it is on her deeds. HTH

Do you know the details on the deeds of your neighbour’s property? I’ve lived where I am for nearly 30 years and I couldn’t tell you mine let alone my neighbours.

JohnofWessex · 09/10/2024 18:14

Can I go through this bit by bit

  1. If they are using bad language then its a Police issue
  2. Noise etc is down to The Council
  3. The Parking/Noise/ASB ISNT a Police issue BUT what the Police DONT want is feuding fights etc so they may be interested in it
  4. Are the houses freehold or Leasehold. The reason being that if they are leasehold OR there is an Estate Management Charge either the freeholder or the Estate management Company may get involved
  5. Any restrictive covenants that might be relevant
  6. Any Landlord Licensing that applies in your area? They might get involved
Sort out the issues and refer them to the relevant people
Dreamsofcruise · 09/10/2024 18:20

Can’t you just get one if those small metal bollards installed- you can lock them in an upright position to prevent others using your space?

skyeisthelimit · 09/10/2024 18:24

There is usually a clause in tenancy agreements about not causing problems with the neighbours.

Keep complaining to the landlord and the agency, every time they show some abusive behaviour. The landlord needs to advise them where to park and tell them that they can't park in other people's spaces.

If they don't listen then he needs to evict them and get some decent tenants who aren't knobheads.

blackpooolrock · 09/10/2024 18:39

let their tyres down.

JulianFawcettMP · 09/10/2024 21:46

Cattery · 09/10/2024 15:30

The fact they are renting is what has needled her; that and the fact she deems them lazy

As others have said, you are projecting. And with it you are talking nonsense.

ValsCupcakes · 10/10/2024 11:38

Update. The landlord called around in the afternoon and spoke to some of the neighbours after receiving my message and he then went to talk to the tenants. He said he would keep the ASB news "under my hat" but he has told them that they should use their designated parking space. I was then texted by a neighbour that the car had gone from the front of my house but parked on the road, not in their designated space.

OP posts:
Avanet · 10/10/2024 15:13

You don't have to put the house number on it if you mark the space. Just private land and some sort of parking notice.

Coruscations · 10/10/2024 15:52

ValsCupcakes · 10/10/2024 11:38

Update. The landlord called around in the afternoon and spoke to some of the neighbours after receiving my message and he then went to talk to the tenants. He said he would keep the ASB news "under my hat" but he has told them that they should use their designated parking space. I was then texted by a neighbour that the car had gone from the front of my house but parked on the road, not in their designated space.

What ASB news? You don't seem to have mentioned it previously.

ValsCupcakes · 11/10/2024 10:01

Coruscations · 10/10/2024 15:52

What ASB news? You don't seem to have mentioned it previously.

@Coruscations Yes I did. Did you miss the bit where I said more than once that they caused arguments with several of the neighbours, yelling at one and calling him a c**t because he dared to ask them to move the car so he could park on his own drive - drive, not road. They blocked part of it in.

He's probably hanging on to the complaints as leverage to not renew the tenancy if it continues, perhaps.

OP posts:
Justsewsew · 11/10/2024 19:59

What would you do though if they owned their home?

saraclara · 11/10/2024 20:28

Justsewsew · 11/10/2024 19:59

What would you do though if they owned their home?

If they owned their home, they'd have access to the deeds and would know how the spaces worked.

AutumnTimeForCosy24 · 12/10/2024 08:31

saraclara · 11/10/2024 20:28

If they owned their home, they'd have access to the deeds and would know how the spaces worked.

@JeanLundegaard
but they're NOT visiting, the live there & they have been told several times

@saraclara

they don't need to see their deeds. They've been told by their LL & presumably were told when they took on the tenancy. It's a shame you can't just call a towing company in England!

@ValsCupcakes Have you taken a photo of their latest rogue parking??

I didn't know what you meant by ASB news either! Still don't know what you mean by it, even with your response at 10.01🤷🏻‍♀️

AutumnTimeForCosy24 · 12/10/2024 08:33

Justsewsew · 11/10/2024 19:59

What would you do though if they owned their home?

Find out the correct way of reporting them.

but as they don't it's irrelevant!

rainbowstardrops · 12/10/2024 09:29

They sound like a bloody nightmare! Hopefully their lease won't get renewed (if they even hang around for that long)

WhosPink · 12/10/2024 09:32

if you are getting wet walking to and from your car perhaps you should invest in an umbrella?

Justsewsew · 12/10/2024 10:15

@saraclara but that wouldn't stop them from parking anti socially if they wanted to. It just feels odd to me when tenants are reported to their landlords - I understand why but it feels a bit 'I'm telling mum"

FlyingFox · 13/10/2024 09:20

How infuriating, I can picture the "type" of people they are, yes stereotying but I know what you mean OP, neighbours from hell basically who don't give a damn about anyone else as long as they are OK. I would keep on to their Landlord about it tell him they have upset half the neighbourhood. Those saying they probably don't know where to park, I'm pretty sure that they would have been told where their allocated parking spaces are when they rented the place that would be common practice to let them know, they are just being ignorant.

Welshmonster · 13/10/2024 09:55

Can you invest in one of those up down bollards on your parking space as you own it? Some clients of mine got them after their cars were stolen.

Candystore22 · 13/10/2024 10:48

ValsCupcakes · 09/10/2024 13:43

@LumpyandBumps I do also think that the information I have given sets the family in context. They started shouting at neighbours the day they moved in, asking one woman "what are you looking at?". They've played loud music. They had an Olympics party in the garden that went on until 3am. As I have said they've argued in the street with people asking them to use their own parking spaces and called them abusive names.

I got home one day in the summer to find a car outside my house with a man inside it in the passenger seat. I asked him if the car would be moving so I could park mine outside my house and he said "I'm waitin' for 'er at No 12" as if I knew who he meant. It looked like he was an unofficial driving instructor as the girl has recently passed her test. He clearly didn't teach her how to park as she has quite simply chucked it at an angle in front of my house.

Edited

All of this is irrelevant to the parking issue. Leave your feelings about the family aside and just focus on the parking.