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Surname on exam

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Surenameissues4 · 08/10/2024 17:07

My DD is 15 (not 16 until Aug). She was SA by her father and had no contact with him in 5 years. She has been going by my now married surname since after saying how seeing her previous surname all the time at school (fathers name) was negativity affecting her mental health. She has had her surname changed everywhere now and it has helped her.
She came back quite distraught from school after being told she had to use her legal surname on her GCSE papers. She can't change by deedpoll until she's 16 years old but due to her being one of the youngest in the year, that won't be until after she's sat her exams.
I'm not sure on how to help her. On on hand, it's just a name, but it clearly a big deal to her mental wellbeing

IABU - it's just a name, she can change it when she's 16 years old
IANBU - help her fight to use her current surname if it's affecting her that much.

OP posts:
Surenameissues4 · 08/10/2024 18:11

I asked her about legally changing it when she wanted to 4 years ago. She begged me not to as EX had only just dropped the fight for some sort of contact (letters, supervised etc hes tried arguing for it all). She understands more about court then normal due to the circumstances of what happend. She knew I'd have to get his permission and up until now she has been referred to by the new surname at school, clubs, docs etc

OP posts:
noctilucentcloud · 08/10/2024 18:12

Are you worried that her having to write her surname at the start of every exam is going to destabilise her during her gcses? If so I think it's worth you/her talking to someone on the pastoral side at the school to see if there's a workaround eg she writes her first name and student number, and a member of staff fills in her surname when the papers are collected? The school may have come across this situation before and have something they can put in place. Otherwise I think it's unfortunately having to wait to until she can legally change it at 16. It's a rubbish system though and I feel for your daughter.

Surenameissues4 · 08/10/2024 18:15

noctilucentcloud · 08/10/2024 18:12

Are you worried that her having to write her surname at the start of every exam is going to destabilise her during her gcses? If so I think it's worth you/her talking to someone on the pastoral side at the school to see if there's a workaround eg she writes her first name and student number, and a member of staff fills in her surname when the papers are collected? The school may have come across this situation before and have something they can put in place. Otherwise I think it's unfortunately having to wait to until she can legally change it at 16. It's a rubbish system though and I feel for your daughter.

She's just come so far since everything. I am concerned. This can't be a first for schools so I will try everything I can. At the same time I want to take her lead on things.

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GinandDubonnet · 08/10/2024 18:18

I am an exam invigilator - check with the school’s exams officer. I am pretty sure that someone in the exams office will be able to write in her surname on the completed scripts after they have been collected in.

DogInATent · 08/10/2024 18:20

Surenameissues4 · 08/10/2024 18:15

She's just come so far since everything. I am concerned. This can't be a first for schools so I will try everything I can. At the same time I want to take her lead on things.

You also have to look ahead for her. Not just allow her to take the lead. She isn't old enough to have the experience or knowledge to predict what she'll encounter in the future.

You didn't seriously think she could use any name she liked on exam papers and certificates? She'll have to be entered into the exams by the school under her legal name even before she sits the exams. Until her name is changed legally, she will always legally be known by the name she dislikes. Waiting until she's 16 will be too late to avoid a paper trail in the 'wrong' name.

Irridescantshimmmer · 08/10/2024 18:24

Get your daughter's name changed by deed poll by a solicitor, then she should never, ever have to go through all then shenanigans at schoo again.

You/Your daughter will be given the deed poll and she can make copies of it for school but should keep the original.

Its far better than the triggering alternative.

SummerFeverVenice · 08/10/2024 18:25

If you can’t do it now because abusive ex still has parental responsibility.
Then
She can change her name in August and it will be on her 6th form A levels and Uni applications everything with be under her new legal name from that point forward. She can even get new passport and so on.

I would see what support the school can offer to minimise it. Like maybe she can put her first name downm new surname as a middle name and the exam inivigilator can add the legal surname?

GRex · 08/10/2024 18:25

Can you ask the exam board for permission to use a stamp for her name, plus add her preferred name as an AKA? If she advises the reasons and says she'll be changing name before results then they may allow it. It would save her actually writing it down.

tennissquare · 08/10/2024 18:30

Someone in the exams office can fill in her surname when she hands the paper in.

Hercisback1 · 08/10/2024 18:30

This isn't something the school can do anything about. They have to be in her legal name.

Singleandproud · 08/10/2024 18:37

Why not go to a solicitor for your free half hour and find out properly what it takes to change her name through court for her particular set of circumstances?

It costs £30+ for each new exam certificate so it is quite possibly cheaper to go via court.

Whilst your name is her 'known' name surely her passport and medical notes are all in her legal name you can't have changed it everywhere officially.

ahemfem · 08/10/2024 18:39

User79853257976 · 08/10/2024 18:08

It’s about having to write the name as she sits down for each exam.

Yes. I was hoping it might help her if there was a solution to the qualifications so she knew it was only temporary. I feel desperately sorry for her.

ahemfem · 08/10/2024 18:40

noctilucentcloud · 08/10/2024 18:12

Are you worried that her having to write her surname at the start of every exam is going to destabilise her during her gcses? If so I think it's worth you/her talking to someone on the pastoral side at the school to see if there's a workaround eg she writes her first name and student number, and a member of staff fills in her surname when the papers are collected? The school may have come across this situation before and have something they can put in place. Otherwise I think it's unfortunately having to wait to until she can legally change it at 16. It's a rubbish system though and I feel for your daughter.

That's a good suggestion

ARichtGoodDram · 08/10/2024 18:44

Unfortunately the school's hands are tied. She must use her legal name on her exams.

If there's no time to change it between now and her exams then please remind her that it'll only be on the GCSE certificate - she'll be able to change for her A levels and uni so it's not going to follow her constantly on job applications or the likes (other than obviously having to go on DBS checks and the like).

AuldSpookySewers · 08/10/2024 18:46

Push back and tell the school that your daughter’s name is now X.

Schools seem more than happy to accept trans ideology and boys pretending to be girls and using new names just because they feel like it, so I’d ask the school to show you the legislation that requires her to use her original birth name on her exam papers, because I really don’t think it exists.

I changed/made up my name during my secondary school years and used the new name for everything inc. exams.

School admin will tell you all sorts of stuff but when it comes to asserting any legal authority, they rely on people not questioning their decisions.

MakeItRain26 · 08/10/2024 18:47

SIL had my (step) nephew’s name changed my deedpoll at 15 - she just did it herself as a parent, specifically to avoid this situation, so his NI number and exam certificates will all be in the right name (the one he has used informally since SIL married my brother).

If she has only just started year 11 you could probably sort this out, I don’t think it took too long for SIL.

If you don’t and she changes it later she will always have to prove that she is the same person as the person named on those certificates.

You dropped the ball here a bit OP, of course a legal name has to be on formal exam certificates and you can’t fight it, but you could put it right if you act swiftly.

Stealthmodemama · 08/10/2024 18:50

You can change a child's name via deed poll at 15.

MakeItRain26 · 08/10/2024 18:50

Also I don’t think my SIL had to get my nephew’s dad’s permission either but I can’t remember how that worked

Hercisback1 · 08/10/2024 18:53

AuldSpookySewers · 08/10/2024 18:46

Push back and tell the school that your daughter’s name is now X.

Schools seem more than happy to accept trans ideology and boys pretending to be girls and using new names just because they feel like it, so I’d ask the school to show you the legislation that requires her to use her original birth name on her exam papers, because I really don’t think it exists.

I changed/made up my name during my secondary school years and used the new name for everything inc. exams.

School admin will tell you all sorts of stuff but when it comes to asserting any legal authority, they rely on people not questioning their decisions.

The exam board will only print certificates in the legal name (for obvious reasons).

You can be known as what you like day to day.

Drinas · 08/10/2024 18:54

No real advice other than don’t let the legalities of a name and the trauma around it ruin her future. He will be obliviated very soon.

Can only imagine how upsetting this is. He doesn’t get to mess up her GCSEs as well.

Lolla38 · 08/10/2024 18:56

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Naunet · 08/10/2024 18:56

stichguru · 08/10/2024 18:00

This is a stupid fight. The school, quite rightly, won't break the law for the good of your daughter's mental health. Tough, but you have had plenty of time to get her name changed before now if it was that important.

We’re talking about a child who was sexually abused by her dad here, a little fucking empathy in your reply wouldn’t kill you.

This place is getting worse.

Im so sorry for your daughter OP, she will have to use her legal name, but maybe she could have some therapy to help her realise it is just a name, it means nothing, I was in the same boat as your daughter, I’ve not changed my name because it’s mine, but I understand why she wants to.

Silvers11 · 08/10/2024 18:57

Stealthmodemama · 08/10/2024 18:50

You can change a child's name via deed poll at 15.

But you need both parents (if they have PR) to sign the form

Reugny · 08/10/2024 18:57

Stealthmodemama · 08/10/2024 18:50

You can change a child's name via deed poll at 15.

Yes it can be done when they are approaching their 16th birthday.

AuldSpookySewers · 08/10/2024 18:59

Hercisback1 · 08/10/2024 18:53

The exam board will only print certificates in the legal name (for obvious reasons).

You can be known as what you like day to day.

Nope, that’s simply not true.

They will print the name on the certificate that corresponds to the awards paperwork put before and agreed by the exam board.

The exam board members and administrators have zero authority to question the name written on the exam paper unless they have strong grounds to suspect fraud and then they would need to initiate an investigation and find actual evidence.