To really dislike Bridget Phillipson?

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I just absolutely can’t stand the woman.

The lady seems to be making decisions based on personal prejudices and causing intentional division in our education system.
She’s not listening to anyone, and the consequences her decisions are having is far too impactful to ignore. As someone in her power she should model balanced politics, based on evidence, instead of in-sighting hate and division.

My children are in state school- we’ve had 3
more children come into their year group with SEN but no EHCPs as their previous independent schools could cope without one. The parents inform me it’ll take a few years and that’s if they get one- and then they can either go back to their previous independent school (as apparently they won’t have to pay VAT with an ECHP?) or have the help they need according to the results of the ECHP.

Im just so angry. I have nothing against these children and can understand they can’t afford the VAT increase and needed to move back into state schools, but it’s now really disrupted the class. The TA is apparently out the class all the time now and the class teacher has 32 children on her own. It appears that Bridget’s insistence and personal hate against the private sector is damaging to state school children. It’s really pissing me off - our children’s education is important and not to be messed around with.

I feel like the woman likes a good headline but is prepared to throw our children’s education away in order to meet her personal objectives / vendettas.

What is she actually doing for state schools? Her headline grabbing titles is deflecting from her actually trying to improve state education in any meaningful and impactful way. 6500 teachers - so my kids get 1/3 of a teacher for their school? That’s shocking. More children entering the state system now puts pressure on their school, and their teachers. What is she actually doing to address this. Where is she magic-ing these trained and qualified teachers from? What is she doing to retain teachers and help with their current work load?

I’m fed up with her agenda effecting normal people. We need someone with a level head to sort schools out. End of rant!

Exactly!

This is just another woe is me and my PS educated offspring thread. The government should go further and stop PS claiming charitable status too, it's just a way to claim back their VAT, whilst they give nothing to the struggling state sector.

And I have just read the tweet that somebody has just copied and pasted, I see nothing wrong with that tweet The fact is, under the last government, schools have got crumbling concrete etc. And why shouldnt the VAT be applied to private schools? Of course, it might not do everything that labour wants it to do, but Hey, what's the problem? The problem is, people are getting the knickers in the twist, because they don't want to pay more money well take it up with the private schools.

I do hate when women turn on women like this.

The Tories f&cked the school state system for 14 years because they and their voters didn't use it.

It's going to take major changes - at least he's got some gumption about her.

Yup. The fact is private school costs have more than doubled over the last decade - truly becoming places for the very well-off. These businesses have been screwing private parents over for years - but it's like a cult, they can't see it because they're right in the middle of it, or they don't want to admit the tons of money they wasted.

I highly doubt she's removing comments from social media. There are certain algorithms on facebook that automatically filter out repetitive or unrelated comments. This is common practice due to spamming.

Essentially, we have different views on politics, and that's fine as we have life experiences. I've worked under Conservative, Labour and Con Dem governments and I know which I trust and don't trust.

I’m going to let you ladies squabble over the VAT and I’ll step away 🤣

I want to know what is going to practically happen to the state school children, like mine, that are being affected and are going to be in the future. But ladies keep going- there really aren’t enough posts on her arguing over the VAT 🤦🏻‍♀️

Let’s concentrate on what exactly is going to be the impact for state school children short term. I suppose it’s right though BP has caused division amongst society and seeing your cat fighting responses, she’s deflecting from what she’s actually going to be doing and it’s working! People are talking about VAT and not the actual 93% of state school children and the impact of this policy on them.

Why have they moved out of independent schools when the vat hasn't even been applied yet

Because it’s been announced that VAT will be applied from this January, ie part way through the school year. Some families simply can’t afford it.

like get rid of swimming pools etc

A lot of private schools don’t have pools. For those that do, how much do you think it costs to decommission a pool? It’s not as straightforward as saying “just don’t use it”. Those schools that do have pools share it with the wider community. Community children and groups use it for swimming lessons etc. Closing a pool would impact far more people than the pupils that attend the school.

what many state schools did under austerity

They did not have to make 20% savings overnight.

People are talking about VAT and not the actual 93% of state school children and the impact of this policy on them.

But this is part of the posts

It’s a policy that will affect all dc, we use state and it’s a poor policy for many reasons

Many of us have tried to point out the effects that it will have on the 93%. We are often told that we “don’t care” about them. The impact is going to be that state sector will have to cope with more children. State school heads (eg grammars) have long been warning about this. That will impact different schools in different ways. For example, if a private school has to close as it’s no longer viable, that will lead to a large influx of additional pupils needing spaces in that locality.

At the end of the day, no child (state or private) is going to benefit from this. The IFS have said that the money raised is tiny and won’t affect spending on public services (ie state schools). So, if things are to improve in the state sector and it really is a question of funding (personally I think the problems run deeper than that), the money needs to come from somewhere.

The impact on state schools is that many will have to cope with more pupils. For those children moving in-year, I don’t think they attract additional funding either. So, in the short term, schools will have to manage more pupils on the same budget.

@DadJoke you may have read it but you clearly didn't understand it.

💯 I fully agree with you. It’s just there’s some ladies on here who just launch a ranty, uneducated attack against private school parents / children and I can’t get into it. They just don’t like people paying for education yet they’re happy I pay for a nice house, big cars and luxury holidays but lo and behold someone pays for education and the claws come out!

I really dislike BP - there was another playground post she put on last night. It’s all about trying to wind up private school parents but nothing about what they will meaningfully do for state school kids. All I can see if negatives for state school children - fuller classes sizes (it takes a long time to build schools and recruit teachers ) more tax money spent on education as they’ll be taking places - like I’ve seen and more pressure on schools on those with SEN needs entering state schools . She hides behind her title grabbing headlines and children are suffering on both sides !

I haven't read the thread in any detail (sorry but it's just the same as all the others). However going back to your OP independent schools do not take children with SN who are disruptive (unless specialist independent) so I think what you describe is just another moan about VAT.

Well if you're looking for another impact on state school children here's one.
My children are in a state school in a town with 3 independent schools.
We use two swimming pools, numerous tennis courts, hockey/soccer Astro pitches and theatre facilities.
Our PE and drama staff have been informed that access to these facilities may be greatly restricted next term.

Yes they do 🤣 what an uneducated response- I was a state school teacher - we had SEN children move to private who were disruptive and we couldn’t meet their needs! What a blanket statement for a very large group! I then would transfer and do handovers about their needs - so no you’re fully wrong here.

It’s your reading comprehension which is shot:

”making decisions based on personal prejudice” = VAT on private schools

“Insighting (sic) division and hate” = VAT on private schools

Their three “friends” switching to the state sector = VAT on private schools

“Bridget’s insistence and personal hate against the private sector” = VAT on private schools.

Why does she dislike Phillipson? VAT on private schools.

Try reading it again.

That’s not correct. Some do support SEN

Love the idea that a MP never mind a cabinet minister is sat on Facebook all day long deleting the

' you've destroyed our lives with your politics of envy! you won't be happy until my Minty, Georgie, Cossy and Bunny are forced to mix with council estate persons in classes of 52! Minty wanted to take A levels in Aramaic, the Theremin, and medieval farming techniques, is she going to get that in a comprehensive school? Bunny wants to study maths beyond the age of 12, no state school provides that! Well, it won't work BRIDGET. We're going to strive harder to keep them exactly where they are. Mummy and daddy are giving us a couple hundred thou to tides us over so that we can still enrich our children's lives with ski-ing at Christmas and Thailand at half term.'

You are correct it isn’t BP deleting but it is her team .

PS. Don’t lower yourself with your last paragraph there’s really no need! Not cool not cool!

YANBU to dislike a policy. YABU to extrapolate from that dislike of an individual person you have not met.

oh, it's just a bit of fun. Also - go check out the 'Education Not taxation ' facebook page and READ some of the comments. It's genuinely not that far off a lot of the comments!

I know people think of children as your post indicates but it really is low nonsense

This rhetoric seems to be driving a bad policy more than anything. For Phillipson too.

Many people on that grp seem to be under the impression that state schools don't teach anything, certainly not music or sports or art or anything beyond English and Maths. It is STUFFED with strivers, and hardworking parents making sacrifices et. but them read the comments and see how out of touch they are...

I think the vast majority will fight gloves off for their children though if it comes to it - I’ve read a load of comments on Bridget Philipsons face book thanks to OP 😏 - that’s all those commenters are doing trying to take care of their own .

Us state school parents will be sounding off too if things get worse for our kids as a result of this VAT change

You might want to read this article on mysteriously disappearing comments. Strangely, “Bridget Phillipson declined to comment.” Why did she decline to comment?

I’m afraid any point you are trying to make is undermined by the childish name calling and mocking of children’s names.

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