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Work calls on trains

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the7Vabo · 08/10/2024 09:34

But of a rant but I’m sick of people using their commute time to do work calls.

I just moved location on a train as it looked like I was going to be subject to a call for almost the whole journey (an hour). He’s so loud I call still hear him from the other end of the carriage.

I also work in one of the largest organisations where I live and I regularly overhear calls relating to it.

The guy this morning had his laptop open, basically acting as if he was at a desk.

Is it unreasonable to expect that people consider that others may not want to be subject to the noise during their morning commute?

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Getonwitit · 08/10/2024 18:55

dreamingofsun · 08/10/2024 09:43

Are you OK with people talking, or is it that you cant hear both sides of the conversation that annoys you? Surely you could go in the quiet carriage if you are that bothered.

Having 3 kids, doing a long commute and not wanting to work on urgent things when i got home, meant that i usually worked on the train. And had to put up with fat/smelly/farty etc etc people

"Important" types gob off in the quiet carriages as well.

BringTheWine · 08/10/2024 19:00

Then take it up with your employers

Why would I do that? My job involves travelling. I'm more than happy to work on the train so it's not a problem. If you don't like it, take it up with the train company.

Bluenoodles · 08/10/2024 19:03

Train companies should introduce an exclusive vip working carriage for these very important people wankers that need to work on trains, leave the rest of us to enjoy our journey.

MissRoseDurward · 08/10/2024 19:04

"We have the sheep pens, we just need the field"🐑
(This was in London.....where sheep fields don't really exist

Was he one of the Freemen of the City who was exercising his right to drive sheep across London Bridge?

I once overheard a whole conversation about legal proceedings relating to a girl who was in care.

Just keep your voices down, fgs, so other people can also work on the train without having their concentration broken by someone bellowing at the other end of the carriage. And no, I won't wear headphones. I don't find them comfortable for any length of time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y9l4z9qdqo

Hollywood actor Damian Lewis wears a grey coat as he shepherds sheep across southwark bridge. City of London freemen walk in the background as members of the public take images on mobile phones

Damian Lewis shepherds sheep over London bridge

Damian Lewis ushered sheep along the historic trade route into the City of London.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y9l4z9qdqo

the7Vabo · 08/10/2024 19:20

BringTheWine · 08/10/2024 19:00

Then take it up with your employers

Why would I do that? My job involves travelling. I'm more than happy to work on the train so it's not a problem. If you don't like it, take it up with the train company.

Is the world really in such a state that we have to resort to - I won’t be considerate of other people unless you lobby the train company to force me to be

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the7Vabo · 08/10/2024 19:24

MissRoseDurward · 08/10/2024 19:04

"We have the sheep pens, we just need the field"🐑
(This was in London.....where sheep fields don't really exist

Was he one of the Freemen of the City who was exercising his right to drive sheep across London Bridge?

I once overheard a whole conversation about legal proceedings relating to a girl who was in care.

Just keep your voices down, fgs, so other people can also work on the train without having their concentration broken by someone bellowing at the other end of the carriage. And no, I won't wear headphones. I don't find them comfortable for any length of time.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5y9l4z9qdqo

I find the headphone argument annoying. I have headphones, they cost approx €20 and they do me fine. Unfortunately though the call I heard this morning was so loud I could easily have heard it anyways. I can’t even guarantee top of the range headphones would have done the job.

And someone made the argument that people are forced to commute for affordability, have kids & people to look after. The people you are inflicting your shouty work calls on have the same challenges.

Fortuanely most people on public transport are well behaved and I had a very pleasant journey home.

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Nutsabouttopic · 08/10/2024 19:36

the7Vabo · 08/10/2024 09:48

Why would I want to hear both sides of the conversation? I don’t want to even hear one side of it!!

I live in Ireland no such things as quiet carriages.

If you consistently work on the train and I mean loud calls not just going on your laptop, you are IMO prioritising your own quality of life over those travelling with you.

I don’t want to hear about your work on my commute.

Irish Rail have Quieter Carriages normally Carraige G. There's a notice on the door stating its a Quieter Carriage and to be respectful of the rules. Staff will move people if they are not observing this. I travelled in one recently and it was very peaceful, a few people working on their laptops but nobody on phones.

Alaimo · 08/10/2024 19:37

I was on a train from London last month where a woman kept giving what sounded like legal advice: "No, you don't need to tell them anything. Yes, I understand it's nerve wracking, but just stay calm. They don't have a case against you. Just let me talk to them tomorrow, don't send them anything today."

It sounded like such an inappropriate conversation to have on a train.

Needmorelego · 08/10/2024 19:43

@MissRoseDurward the mysterious sheep phone call was infact a few days before the sheep across the bridge thing.
I was in a cafe not that far from the bridge. When I saw the news article I did think "oooh was that what that phone call was about?"
😂😂😂

AnneElliott · 08/10/2024 19:52

FuzzyPuffling · 08/10/2024 09:38

If I was involved in industrial espionage ( I'm not) I would just spend my days on commuter trains. It's amazing what you find out...

I remember MI5 coming to brief my Government Department on security matters and they said if they ever wanted to know what our Department was up to they would just sit at the back of the bus and listen in! That really made me think about how much people share without realising who might be listening.

MissRoseDurward · 08/10/2024 19:54

I find the headphone argument annoying. I have headphones, they cost approx €20 and they do me fine. Unfortunately though the call I heard this morning was so loud I could easily have heard it anyways. I can’t even guarantee top of the range headphones would have done the job.

And one does need to be able to hear passenger announcements, or someone calling out to tell you you've dropped your gloves/keys/wallet as you're getting off the train.

the7Vabo · 08/10/2024 19:55

Nutsabouttopic · 08/10/2024 19:36

Irish Rail have Quieter Carriages normally Carraige G. There's a notice on the door stating its a Quieter Carriage and to be respectful of the rules. Staff will move people if they are not observing this. I travelled in one recently and it was very peaceful, a few people working on their laptops but nobody on phones.

Is this available on darts do you know?

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BringTheWine · 08/10/2024 19:58

Is the world really in such a state that we have to resort to - I won’t be considerate of other people unless you lobby the train company to force me to be

It's not inconsiderate of me to work on the train. Stop expecting the world to revolve around you. People need to work and those that use trains can't spend hours a day staring out the window when they're paid to work.

the7Vabo · 08/10/2024 20:06

BringTheWine · 08/10/2024 19:58

Is the world really in such a state that we have to resort to - I won’t be considerate of other people unless you lobby the train company to force me to be

It's not inconsiderate of me to work on the train. Stop expecting the world to revolve around you. People need to work and those that use trains can't spend hours a day staring out the window when they're paid to work.

Thinking that is ok to subject me to your work calls is expecting the world to revolve around you and your needs.

You don’t have to stare out the window you can email or message your communication.

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Humphhhh · 08/10/2024 20:15

idrinkandknowthings · 08/10/2024 18:43

'wash up session

@Humphhhh Why would anyone ever say this?

Dunno. Common phrase in many organisations though.

MissRoseDurward · 08/10/2024 20:38

It's not inconsiderate of me to work on the train.

It's inconsiderate if your working on a train impacts on other people and their ability to work on a train. You and your work are not more important than them and their work.

There have been times when I've wanted to read through some papers, but haven't been able to focus because of the noise of other people's phone calls. And some people do seem to talk almost non-stop and barely allow the person on the other end to get a word in, so there isn't even that much respite.

32nddalmation · 08/10/2024 20:39

BringTheWine · 08/10/2024 19:58

Is the world really in such a state that we have to resort to - I won’t be considerate of other people unless you lobby the train company to force me to be

It's not inconsiderate of me to work on the train. Stop expecting the world to revolve around you. People need to work and those that use trains can't spend hours a day staring out the window when they're paid to work.

Planning to take calls, and making loud and long calls, is completely different to working quietly on a laptop. Many of us have to work on commutes but also take into consideration that we are sharing space with other people who may also want to concentrate on something or be taking their only opportunity in the day to rest.

BringTheWine · 08/10/2024 20:46

Planning to take calls, and making loud and long calls, is completely different to working quietly on a laptop. Many of us have to work on commutes but also take into consideration that we are sharing space with other people who may also want to concentrate on something or be taking their only opportunity in the day to rest.

I have to take/make calls. Sometimes I spend 6 hours of a 10 hour day in a train. I'm not loud and obviously keel calls as short as possible but I can't just not do them. Trains are public places, not private rooms.

BringTheWine · 08/10/2024 20:50

It's inconsiderate if your working on a train impacts on other people and their ability to work on a train. You and your work are not more important than them and their work.

I'm often with a colleague who manages to work opposite me so I'm sure others manage to work too.

There have been times when I've wanted to read through some papers, but haven't been able to focus because of the noise of other people's phone calls. And some people do seem to talk almost non-stop and barely allow the person on the other end to get a word in, so there isn't even that much respite.

Trains are public places, you're not going to get peace. I need to read papers too and have to suck it up if someone else working is on a call.

Jc2001 · 08/10/2024 20:58

Not just work calls. It's the people who hold the phone horizontally, 3 or 4 inches in front of the mouth (so they have to talk really loudly) with the loud speaker on and talk to their friends, so everyone else within 30 foot has to hear both sides of the conversation. REALLY LOUDLY.

Has no one explained to them how a fucking phone works?

32nddalmation · 08/10/2024 20:59

BringTheWine · 08/10/2024 20:46

Planning to take calls, and making loud and long calls, is completely different to working quietly on a laptop. Many of us have to work on commutes but also take into consideration that we are sharing space with other people who may also want to concentrate on something or be taking their only opportunity in the day to rest.

I have to take/make calls. Sometimes I spend 6 hours of a 10 hour day in a train. I'm not loud and obviously keel calls as short as possible but I can't just not do them. Trains are public places, not private rooms.

Well you've planned your life and workday in a way that has a negative impact on other people then - as seen in the voting and the numerous responses to you. You're right there's nothing that other people can do about your inconsiderate behaviour, but that doesn't mean it isn't inconsiderate.

EmpressaurusDeiGatti · 08/10/2024 21:11

BringTheWine · 08/10/2024 20:46

Planning to take calls, and making loud and long calls, is completely different to working quietly on a laptop. Many of us have to work on commutes but also take into consideration that we are sharing space with other people who may also want to concentrate on something or be taking their only opportunity in the day to rest.

I have to take/make calls. Sometimes I spend 6 hours of a 10 hour day in a train. I'm not loud and obviously keel calls as short as possible but I can't just not do them. Trains are public places, not private rooms.

So you also get that if people make work calls in a public place, that information is fair game for anyone in the carriage who might have a use for it? Or do you never say anything that couldn’t be safely heard by whoever else happens to be nearby?

lap90 · 08/10/2024 21:24

This is my pet peeve and it's not just work calls...

Afriendwithbreastsandalltherest · 08/10/2024 21:26

I am enjoying how fast and free people are playing with personal and company data, and having no consideration for any risk to individuals or businesses or worse in the case of public sector/civil service staff.

Hurrayforfridays · 08/10/2024 21:30

Honestly, get some Loop earplugs. They don't completely block out the sound but muffle it so it's bearable. You shouldn't have to but there will always be self important idiots who think the world wants to hear their business.

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