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40 grand a year

159 replies

Howmanytimeshasshesaidimnotgonnalie · 06/10/2024 22:24

Would you consider this a good wage?

Could you live on it fairly comfortably?

Two adults, one dc and dog, South west, renting

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AstonUniversityPotholeDepartment · 06/10/2024 23:06

Frankly, it depends on the rent/mortgage deal. I wouldn't be struggling but I have been very lucky with my housing costs.

DoggoQuestions · 06/10/2024 23:06

You'd need a guarantor for rent. You wouldn't pass the financial checks for that rent on 40k. Too tight imo.

ViciousCurrentBun · 06/10/2024 23:07

You will have 20 to 22k left after rent.

As two adults with one adult child at home we spent 28k last year with zero housing costs as mortgage is paid off. Actual basic housing utilities were 6k, food was 7k, council tax was 1700. I have a lot of time to shop for food deals as retired.

You can survive on 20k after your rent is paid but it will be all basic bills paid and a fund for if stuff needs replacing but not much for holidays or fun stuff.

Femme2804 · 06/10/2024 23:09

Single yes. For Family its tight. My family always single income, now our income doubled on that. But i remember have £40k and its tight. Doable but tight.

SleepyHollowed84 · 06/10/2024 23:09

You could survive on it but you won’t be ‘comfortable’ I’m afraid. I’d consider selling your existing property to try and buy here.

Skibideetoilet · 06/10/2024 23:12

Depends on so many different factors!

A decade ago me and DH were very young with a baby and his salary was barely more than 20k whilst I was a SAHM. But we had a lovely little HA house with incredibly affordable rent and received working/child tax credits which topped up the income considerably so we were absolutely fine.

Now we have about 70k (before tax)ans a family of four and i feel very comfortable- no money worries at all. But we have manageable mortgage payments, no school fees, no childcare fees, no fancy cars on finance etc etc. To some people that same salary wouldn’t stretch as far.

Wisterical · 06/10/2024 23:13

Ffs all you saying its not enough are completely out of touch with how most of us live. How much do you think your cleaners, the shop workers and bus drivers earn? Three fucking holidays a year and you think you're on the fucking breadline. Unbefuckinglievable.

LovingCritic · 06/10/2024 23:14

Last year I earned a shade over £16K, and have a very comfortable life, its all purely relative to what you want from it I guess.

easylikeasundaymorn · 06/10/2024 23:15

Howmanytimeshasshesaidimnotgonnalie · 06/10/2024 22:26

@Woollypullover Yes

so what's the actual wage if the amount after tax is £40k? Because £40k gross and net are very different amounts. People usually refer to their 'wage' as the amount before any deductions, not what's left after so you're probably going to get some slightly confused responses if you actually mean a salary of about £50k. Is the £40k after NI, any SL deductions and union/membership fees as well?

£1500-1700 seems steep if you're looking at a 2 bed property? Will you be studying, if so you might be able to claim SPD on council tax which will save a bit (unless RR gets rid of it in the budget....)

Cattenberg · 06/10/2024 23:16

I’m in the SW and get by on far less. Our household consists of one adult and one child. We own our own home with a mortgage, but grandparents did help us out with the deposit and also help out a lot with childcare. I can afford to pay for music lessons and other hobbies for DD. We don’t have a car, a TV or pets though.

CandidHedgehog · 06/10/2024 23:18

on that income, I think the amount of rent is too high when the remaining money has to cover 3 people.

Underthere · 06/10/2024 23:20

It leaves you with about £400 a week for food, bills, clothes etc. and transport, which would mean careful budgeting, but is certainly possible. A lot depends on what your transport costs and bills would be. If you don't have a commute to work and rent a flat with low bills, it will be fine.

FunnysInLaJardin · 06/10/2024 23:20

not enough by a long way

AutumnTimeForCosy24 · 06/10/2024 23:21

bergamotorange · 06/10/2024 22:46

Hmm Well that's a bit different.

Yes it'll be manageable.

Although your rent is very high.

In the SE, that's a basic 2bed house IF you can find one!

Dont know about SW.

AutumnTimeForCosy24 · 06/10/2024 23:22

CandidHedgehog · 06/10/2024 23:18

on that income, I think the amount of rent is too high when the remaining money has to cover 3 people.

@CandidHedgehog

thats all well & good, but try finding anything cheaper!!

AutumnTimeForCosy24 · 06/10/2024 23:24

LovingCritic · 06/10/2024 23:14

Last year I earned a shade over £16K, and have a very comfortable life, its all purely relative to what you want from it I guess.

@LovingCritic

mist people would want a roof over their heads! That wouldn't even
civer the rent here.

Howmanyusernames123 · 06/10/2024 23:24

Prescottdanni123 · 06/10/2024 23:05

Sadly, most mumsnetters are under the (deluded) impression think that if you don't earn six figures, you will have to live on bread and gruel and burn furniture to keep warm.

I know!

what are you lot spending on that 3k a month is tight?

our household income is not that high and I consider us quite comfortable. 2 kids, one dog. Savings, and enough spare for treats.

i managed in London with 2 in childcare on 40k gross. 40k net with no childcare is a doddle 😂

ShyMaryEllen · 06/10/2024 23:26

Do people really count their salary as ‘household after tax’?

Ellsx6 · 06/10/2024 23:28

Not great in my opinion. Me and DH have about 60k a year..1 child on the way and we are mortgage free and we don't live enjoyabley and comfortabley and that's before the baby's here so we are thinking we need to up our wages before he arrives or we'll be scraping by🤣

DrCoconut · 06/10/2024 23:30

🤣 at 2 European city breaks a year being "barely comfortable". My drier has broken down and I'm praying I don't have to replace it.

Cattenberg · 06/10/2024 23:30

Genevieva · 06/10/2024 22:52

The South West is very expensive for private rentals because the tourist market is more lucrative than long term lets, so there aren’t many. Unless you have family there to help with childcare while you both work, you’ll find it a struggle to get by on one income or even two incomes plus after school and holiday childcare.

It’s true that renting is expensive in the SW. I couldn’t afford to rent my current place, but can afford the mortgage. However, many parts of the SW are NOT tourist destinations. Which area are you looking at, OP?

Howmanyusernames123 · 06/10/2024 23:32

Ellsx6 · 06/10/2024 23:28

Not great in my opinion. Me and DH have about 60k a year..1 child on the way and we are mortgage free and we don't live enjoyabley and comfortabley and that's before the baby's here so we are thinking we need to up our wages before he arrives or we'll be scraping by🤣

What the fuck do you spend nearly 4k a month on if you have no mortgage?

PickAChew · 06/10/2024 23:33

Okonomoyaki · 06/10/2024 22:35

Very much serious. Small 3 bed semi in a 'nice' area, but no parking and tiny garden.
Two basic European city breaks a year, plus a UK week away with dog.
Try to do a long haul every 5 years or so.

So you're saying you're skint but have 3 holidays a year?

fridaynight1 · 06/10/2024 23:34

We live a comfortable life on £34k single salary, petrol paid for, kids left home, mortgage £1050. So yes, 40k would work for us.

We live within our means and we do that comfortably.

Howmanytimeshasshesaidimnotgonnalie · 06/10/2024 23:34

@Cattenberg Well, the job is in Falmouth and my family live near Perranporth & Newquay, so ideally in between those two places somehow 😬

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