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to think the dog who bit my friends dd today should be put down?

69 replies

sparklyfairypie · 22/04/2008 19:48

little yappy thing bit her today at nursery (in the nursery garden) GGRR

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Iworryalot · 23/04/2008 18:08

We have a lovely choc lab ,who is so sweet and lovely nature BUT i do look out for danger with my children ,have a stable door to there play room so dog never aloud in there with them ,also she would quite like to chew a few toys up .....also i get the children never to get to close to her face as this is her space especially if shes in her bed .\

Aso when they have children round to play i always put the dog out or with me , just incase ....

I dont think she would ,but i do feel you must respect dogs and you must never trust them 100%
Its not worth the risk ....

ReallyTired · 23/04/2008 21:33

Our cat bit a five year old boy who kept on poking her when she was trying to sleep should she be put down? (Although I disagree)

I think a lot depends on the extent of the attack and whether the dog has bitten before. Did the child need stitches, did the bite break the skin. Did the child need hosipital treatment.

Was the dog being tormented by the kids? I think it would be unreasonable to put a healthy dog down just because it nipped a brat.

Many parents smack their kids. Do you think parents who smack should get the death penalty.

handlemecarefully · 23/04/2008 22:41

"Many parents smack their kids. Do you think parents who smack should get the death penalty."

This could be a whole new thread...

lucyellensmum · 23/04/2008 22:51

My small parrot bit my DD when she was about 5, it drew blood - i knew i should have rung the feckers neck!

bethoo · 23/04/2008 22:52

i think alot of people forget that dogs are not in fact people in furry costumes, they are animals and see things differently to us.they do not have morals etc and like all animals it is fight or run when scared and i dog tied up can only defend itself the way it knows. an owner is responsible for teaching their dog to behave in public but can only do so much as instinct will take over.so what is the excuse of parents with bullies for kids?

Greyriverside · 23/04/2008 23:03

Bethoo, is your point that the dog was entitled to bite the child?

I think you have just summed up why dogs should be on farms or zoos and not in residential areas at all.

lucyellensmum · 23/04/2008 23:05

"I think you have just summed up why dogs should be on farms or zoos and not in residential areas at all." ROTFL how do i nominate this for quote of the week??? Of course, you could say the same for some children you know

bethoo · 23/04/2008 23:06

Greyriverside please point out where i stated that the dog was permitted to bite the child.
like someone pointed out no one on this thread actually knows how much damage was sustained. was it a prolonged attack or a nip, was there blood drawn etc. i do not think we can say it is right to destroy an animal over something we do not know the full story of.

bethoo · 23/04/2008 23:07

dogs are man made through genetic mutations so we only have ourselves to blaim. how many poodles have you seen on the plains of africa Grey?

Greyriverside · 23/04/2008 23:08

Bethoo I was asking because I wasn't sure I understood you correctly. You were speaking of self defense and you mentioned child bullies

Greyriverside · 23/04/2008 23:10

lucyellensmum, please do nominate that if you can

And no I wouldn't say it about children since I see a difference between children and their welfare and animals

bethoo · 23/04/2008 23:11

just pointing out how people are quick to judge dogs behaviour with a simple ''terminate terminate'' yet no onw seems to have as much reaction to children being bullied i find that is all. what would you do if your child came home after being bitten by a child at school? really do not want to get in a row over this but i find it annoying how people are quick ot ask for the lethal injection of a family pet without knowing the full details.

bethoo · 23/04/2008 23:13

children should no better than animals.
i love my ds and i also love my animals yet if my dog showed aggression to my ds then it would be gone so i see where some people come from so not just biased.

Greyriverside · 23/04/2008 23:15

ah I see what you mean then. ty

You're right that I wouldn't expect the other child to be executed.

As I said to lucyellensmum I see a difference between children and pets. This is why we will never agree

bethoo · 23/04/2008 23:24

grey - do you have pets? i try to avoid kiddies on my walks as they tend to want to come over and i know my dog can get excited with the attention and could easily knock a child over in eagerness and i would be concerned to have the police at my door accusing my dog of attacking a small child so sometimes the allegations can be false but who would be believed? so yes i do get defensive sometimes.

lucyellensmum · 24/04/2008 11:24

Everyone, well i presume everyone on this site is a parent, and therefore clearly puts child welfare above that of animals. What you are failing to see grey is the fact that humans and dogs have lived TOGETHER for hundreds of years. Dogs are used for hunting, gaurding and COMPANIONSHIP, not to mention guide dogs, dogs for the deaf, pat dogs. Do you still think they belong in the zoo? That is the whole point to domesticated animals!! Yes they are JUST dogs, but humans do not have the automatic right to disregard their welfare. Dogs in a zoo? Oh perrrlease! My life is the better for having dogs in it, my dogs have had good lives with me in it (i hope). I had a dog when growing up - he was my true friend. I have had dogs as an adult, i truly loved them. Would i choose my dogs over my children, or anyone elses - well thats just ridiculous.

Of course children should be made aware that dogs are animals and as such unpredictable. I used to have rotweillers, one of which was 100% safe with children, the second (a rescue) was not. I always had my dogs under control, the first was allowed off lead as he would not approach children and would sit whenever i told him too. Yazz was kept on a lead around people and when we first got him, he was muzzled all the time. Do you know what, i STILL used to get children charging up to my dogs, straight in their face, face height before i would even have chance to say anything - my heart would jump! Thankfully i had trained my dogs not to be agressive, but they did not like or ask for this attention - so it is a two way thing, and it is very SIMPLE - just ASK if you want to stroke a dog, i love children to stroke my dog now (A jack russel!!) but i still expect to be asked, he jumps up so i like to just hold on to him so he doesnt scratch a face or knock a littly over.

handlemecarefully · 24/04/2008 11:57

Greyriverside - you sound like you have a very tenuous grip on reality.....

Greyriverside · 24/04/2008 12:16

I know my views are considered extreme and don't expect anyone to agree with me and yes I know many dog owners are careful.

Sadly I have heard people say (even on MN)when it's in the news that another child has been mauled that "it's a risk you have to take" and "dog's have rights too" which always winds me up. I have zero tolerance when it comes to children attacked by animals.

There is also the whole thing about dog shit spreading diseases (better now that it's often picked up, but unless you're disinfecting the pavement it's not a full solution)

Our kids don't usually get to see goats etc any more now we live in cities, but more local petting zoos would enable kids to experience all kinds of animals in circumstances where there was less chance of being harmed by them.

lucyellensmum · 24/04/2008 12:53

"Sadly I have heard people say (even on MN)when it's in the news that another child has been mauled that "it's a risk you have to take" and "dog's have rights too" which always winds me up. I have zero tolerance when it comes to children attacked by animals." Where has anyone ever said that???

Im sorry but you should listen to yourself - ALL of us have a "zero tolerance" to animals attacking children. Are you actually taking on board anyones arguments? You seem to be answering your own questions.

As for disinfecting the pavements? Do your children go around licking the floor then? I am surprised you can bear to take them out? I dont live in a city, or in the middle of nowhere - i would feel far safer walking through a feild full of horses/goats/dogs whatever than travelling around london on public transport - perhaps thats a little extreme, in fact, i recognise i do have a problem (anxiety disorder actually) as i will not even consider taking my DD to london even for a day trip - but that is because i have a problem - maybe you have the same issues as me, just centred around all those vicious animals gathering on the streets.

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