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AIBU?

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To not want to reconnect with my dying mother

48 replies

HelpMePlease32 · 06/10/2024 20:20

This might be a bit long but thank you if you stay with me. I just need some perspective here because I feel like a horrible person.

I've not spoken to my estranged mother for a most ten years now, she lives in my old hometown and my friends and even my parents (dad and stepmom) although wont speak to her they see her regularly out and about. I cut her off due to on various things but mainly her alcoholism growing up and her neglect of me and my siblings.

She was very abusive, physically, mentally and emotionally and I believe she was sexually towards my younger brother although I've never been able to prove it and he passed away now. She did some horrific things to us and for years I kept giving her chances because she well she was my mum.

She has been known to tell very huge lies about lots of things from being abused herself to having cancer several times. She's never taken responsibility for her actions or anything she has done. She has six children, one of who has died and four of who including myself have NC with her. I have a toddler who has and never will meet her.

Anyway, through the grapevine and apparently she has put on her FB that she has kidney cancer. I've asked around and it looks to be true this time. I'm getting a lot of flack from people (friends, other family members) that I should take this opportunity to make amends before it's too late and I'll regret it if I dont, blah blah blah.

Firstly, my dad means the world to me, he divorced my mum when I was 10, because of her drinking, he couldn't take me with him but he did try to see me and sent us money etc and my mother wouldn't allow it and made his life hell, including trying to ruin his career by making up lies, beating him up, taking out credit in his name, only agreed to divorce him if he took on the marital debts etc etc repeatedly abused my step mum the list is endless. My dad came back for me when I was 14 and gained full custody and I had a good life from then on. He would never forgive me if he thought Id forgiven her, had contact with her etc.

Secondly, how can I find it in myself to forgive the woman who constantly berated me as a child because I was fat and ugly and just like my dad. Would hit me, push me down stairs, burn me, hold pillows over my head, the list goes on but you get my gist.

I know I shouldn't care but she's a clever woman and she's very convincing with her lies. She will tell anyone who will listen that she doesn't know her children don't like her. I feel like an evil person for feeling absolutely nothing. I don't feel sad that she might die, I don't feel upset, I won't shed a single tear, this I know. I dislike her so much because of what she did and I now have lifelong mental health problems that have made me seriously unwell in the past and I KNOW it's down to her. But everyone is telling me I need to see her and try and look past everything but how can I??

AIBU to just want nothing to do with it.

Fyi she has no money, shes not worked for the best part of 30 years, she lives in assisted living funded by homeless charities. I won't be paying for her are arrangements when the time comes either.

Will I regret this? Am I evil?

OP posts:
Aliceglass · 06/10/2024 22:27

I do understand how you feel, but please don’t dwell on these negative thought patterns because you are not evil for thinking or feeling that way.
I also had an alcoholic, pathological lying mother and I have not cut complete contact with her but I live far away from her. I saw her recently after a family bereavement and she was pulling out all the old stories and excuses.
if you do decide to see her, prepare for the trauma you will experience in doing so. It will not be pretty.
My own mother bad mouthed me to everyone and anyone. Infact, years ago she added everyone in my Facebook and then started posting lies about me. Some people believed her and I have to live with being the bad person in a lot of people’s minds and have experienced people shunning me because of it. But after years of people pleasing, I’m learning that my own peace is important. As is yours. You are not evil for living through your trauma and setting boundaries and you don’t need to fear others opinions. All the best

brisedusoir · 06/10/2024 22:29

Be kind to yourself. You don't need to see her.

Those who haven't had the sort of parent your mother was can never understand and that's okay, because parents like her are the outliers. Most parents love their children like you love your child. And that's a good thing.

A friend was once horrified when my brother said in front of them that the only reason he could think of going to my mothers funeral when the time comes would be to check the coffin is nailed shut properly. I whole heartedly agree with my brother.

Take care of yourself.

Mmhmmn · 06/10/2024 22:31

No-one is in a position to judge you if you understandably want to stay away from her. They know nothing of what it was like for you growing up with her as your mother and what you went through.

Mummytodo · 06/10/2024 22:43

I cut my mum for the same reasons. I felt that if I didn't cut her off it would ruin my life I cut all contact for a around 5 years. I didn't hear anything from her and I felt at peace with that and that I was doing the right thing for my mental health and baby at the time. I got a lot of flack from friends saying but she's your mum ect so i understand where you are coming from

She passed away in 2020 from an alcohol related thing. She was alone and discovered as the firemen were doing checks in the flats where she lived as a neighboring flat a fire. She had lay there a couple of months no one noticed.

As I say at the time I thought it was for the best. But now she has passed and at the time I found out I was very upset. I do think about her every day and I do get upset. I'm not sure if that's because I felt she could have done better or if I could have done more to help her.

I did find out when sorting her things after passing she had searched for me alot but did not reach out. I feel incredibly guilty about it and I do wish I had tried to reach out

Smokesandeats · 06/10/2024 22:48

Just because she is dying doesn’t change anything. She’s still an abusive woman who treated you and your siblings in a terrible way. My advice is to stay away and continue to protect yourself by continuing to have no contact. She’s an evil bitch and you deserved so much better.

Noseybookworm · 06/10/2024 22:54

You owe her absolutely nothing. Don't get guilt tripped by other people who have not walked in your shoes. Please don't feel one ounce of guilt for not feeling sad. She's responsible for alienating you and your siblings and you are doing the right thing by not contacting her.

Cattenberg · 06/10/2024 23:07

My then partner had a similar dilemma when he was told by a third party that his estranged dad was dying and wanted to meet him. He had had no contact with him for more than 20 years as during his childhood, his dad was physically, emotionally and occasionally, sexually, abusive.

My partner was torn as he didn’t want to see his dad and feared the horrific memories this would dredge up. On the other hand, he feared it was wrong to deny his dad his dying wish. Well-meaning friends thought he should see his dad as apparently he’d regret it if he didn’t. But I don’t think they knew the full story, or they viewed it through the lens of people who’d only known normal family relationships, not abusive ones. My partner eventually decided not to see his dad.

@HelpMePlease32 you don’t owe your mother anything, so I think you should do whatever’s right for you. Take both of your parents’ views out of the equation and think about what you want.

CraftyPlumViewer · 06/10/2024 23:21

YANBU at all and any "friends" who are berating you over the situation are scumbags.

dottydaily · 06/10/2024 23:24

Don’t feel you need to do anything..trust yourself..

MrsTerryPratchett · 06/10/2024 23:25

Would hit me, push me down stairs, burn me, hold pillows over my head, the list goes on but you get my gist.

My love, please don't do anything that you don't feel is right for you. She made her choices and you are allowed to make yours.

I wish you nothing but love and light for the rest of your life.

sarahzbaker · 06/10/2024 23:27

Karma. Not your problem.
And I do care what you had to go through.

kittybiscuits · 06/10/2024 23:27

You owe her nothing. Be true to yourself and protect yourself. I was no contact with my mother when she died and I have no regrets. People say such stupid things. They have no idea what you've been through or what's best for you.

TangerinePlate · 06/10/2024 23:27

You don’t owe her anything.

Your friends and family have absolutely no clue how it is to have such parent so ignore their suggestions/requests.

Your feelings trump their opinion.

No loving parent treat their child the way she did.

Hugs ((()))

Milkand2sugarsplease · 06/10/2024 23:30

Other people can have whatever opinion they want about what you should do - BUT - their opinion is no more valid than your own opinion.

Do not get into contact with her because someone else tells you you should.

Ultimately, you need to make the decision that you feel most comfortable with knowing that you have to live with that decision for the rest of your life. This is about you and only you now so do what's right for you and your mental health!

Mamabobogo · 06/10/2024 23:32

Tell all these people, when they’ve walked a mile in your shoes, they can have an opinion,

itsmylife7 · 06/10/2024 23:33

What right do these friends and family have to try and guilt you.

How dare they try to make you feel bad.

Protect yourself and I'm glad that your Dad managed to give you a good life.

I had a friend in very similar circumstances and she asked my advice.....I told her straight... you owe her nothing.

Purposefullyporous · 06/10/2024 23:35

I 100% think you don't owe her anything not even a funeral.
So you do what's best for you and your family now. You aren't evil. At all.
Do not listen to old school people or people who've been manipulated in to caring for relatives who've abused them or they hate and are bitter about it...
You do not owe anyone wo abused you anything.
People with normal families sometimes don't get it either and might say 'she's your mother' don't listen to them they don't get it. She gave up being your mother the moment she abused you, the moment she chose to drink instead of care for children.
Please don't give it a second thought. You are totally in the right to stay away from her.

NewZealandintherain · 06/10/2024 23:37

I am mad and sad on your behalf @HelpMePlease32

How dare these people guilt trip you? You need to shut that down firmly. Do you have a partner or someone who can help you or speak to these people on your behalf?

She sounds like an awful person and I’m sorry for all you’ve been through. I wouldn’t see her, and no you’re not evil.

ARichtGoodDram · 06/10/2024 23:44

Don't let yourself be pushed into anything.

We were removed from my parents when I was 7. My siblings were 15, 16 and 17. We didn't see our father again (apart from a few times he turned up trying to break into our grandparents home) or have any contact with him until a few years ago when he was in a hospice.

My sister wanted to see him, and did. She persuaded my siblings to join her. All three of them bitterly regret it. One brother has ended up needing more therapy over the whole saga.

I didn't want to go. I didn't go. I've never had a moment of regret.

BoundaryGirl3939 · 06/10/2024 23:59

What do YOU want to do?

When you're on your deathbed in years to come, will you be happier if you made your peace or didn't?

Gymnopedie · 07/10/2024 01:12

Those people telling you you should get in touch and look past (ie ignore) what she did to you for so long are imagining a fluffy film scene where the script goes:

OP - Mother!
DM - Darling!
DM - I'm so sorry for everthing I did
OP - I forgive you
Tears and hugs ad infinitum...

But that's not what it will be, is it? She's not had a personality transplant.

The decison is entirely yours. If you want to go then do, but don't let it be the result of others' opinions. And if you don't want to go that's fine. It doesn't make you evil, heartless or anything else they might tell you you are. She's your mother in name only.

WhatIsThisTomFoolery24 · 07/10/2024 01:29

CharlotteFlax · 06/10/2024 20:24

Not evil at all.

Carry on as you are.

This. All the best OP. Move forward and live well. Your dying mother made her bed long ago.

Fraaahnces · 07/10/2024 02:44

Hi @HelpMePlease32 I’m sorry you have this coming back to you now. If it helps you make up your mind, I thought I would “Do the right thing” and go back and nurse my abusive mother in her final months. She didn’t mellow. In fact, the vitriol was probably worse - as were the flying monkeys. I thought I would be able to let it wash over me as I have seen a lot in my career, but it’s so hard when it’s your own family (my brother is just as bad as she was.) I regret the extra trauma I added to my own life. I regret every single second I took from my lovely family and spent with them instead. I ended up re-traumatizing myself and needed a lot of therapy afterwards. Do what you need to protect yourself. A lot of people will minimize your history because they didn’t live it and if they knew about it, they didn’t protect you.

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