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To wonder how people are still making money from scentsy?

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cantthinkofausername26 · 05/10/2024 13:51

I know at least 10 scentsy consultants and 4 or 5 who have actually quit their jobs to do it full time. How are they still making money?? Do people still actually buy it? I haven't bought any for about 2 years.. I can't imagine it's high up on anyone's list of priorities in the current climate. But still the social media posts keep coming and the 'lady boss' tags. Baffled.

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Timeforaglassofwine · 07/10/2024 09:53

I was quite shocked, without wanting to sound stuck up, at the home a hun mum boss team leader owned when I dropped her dd off once. She is forever on a recruitment or sales drive, posting about being blessed with this wonderful lifestyle, being able to afford luxuries for her family, and when I saw her home I realised it was all lies. She managed to con a friend into joining one of her mlm schemes, pressured the woman no end into buying stock she knew the woman wouldn't be able to sell.

cantthinkofausername26 · 07/10/2024 09:54

There's something about scentsy in particular that makes people feel they are changing the world! Avon sellers so just that, sell. But for some reason scentsy people seem to think they are running their own business and even go as far as wearing scentsy hoodies and having graphics made to stick on their cars! Cringe!!
I'm just ranting now, but glad to hear it's not just me that thinks it's all utterly ridiculous!

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KnottedTwine · 07/10/2024 09:58

They're not making money. There are loads of statistics showing that something like 99.7% of people in a MLM either lose money, or break even at the best.

The whole scamtastic business model is built on lies - people buying stock from themselves and promoting it as "sales", lying that turnover is the same as profit, or just downright lying about how much they are making to hook in other women into their pyramid scheming.

MLM should be illegal.

KnottedTwine · 07/10/2024 10:02

BoobyDazzler · 05/10/2024 13:53

I had a mate that legitimately made 60k a year on scentsy a couple of years ago. No idea how she’s doing now as not seen her for a while and unfollowed her on social meadow as the Boss Babe stuff is exceptionally tiresome 🤣

Maybe would be better phrased as "I had a mate who spent thousands on wax melts for herself to keep her status/level in the pyramid, and made a few quid flogging them on to other people".

KnottedTwine · 07/10/2024 10:05

cantthinkofausername26 · 07/10/2024 08:38

Wow, are all these people really being brainwashed? What about the trips to Orlando they have 'won' for creating so many sales? Do you think they fund it themselves?
I knew a Herbalife consultant who told me she had 200 'teamies' she would post about all the designer 'treats' she could afford and went around in a brand new Range Rover... if she wasn't making a fortune how could she afford to do that?
I'm genuinely intrigued by these schemes, and PP's are so right, every 'friend' becomes an opportunity! Sad.

There are lots of threads about this on money matters on MN I think.

In essence - the hotel accommodation in Orlando may be free - although the reps will be expected to attend motivational sessions and "training" during their stay. They usually pay their own flights. Cars are typically leased - not owned/gifted - and conditional on the rep continuing to plough £X per month into the pyramid scam.

craigth162 · 07/10/2024 10:18

I hate mlms. I have a disabled son and so had to give up work. Not sure when or if I'll be able to go back. Joined some fb groups etc for parents of children with his conditions. Within minutes had mums msging me saying oh you should start a business like i have. Its so much fun and can work around your child. Fabulous way to have some adult company and make something of yourself while still carrying out caring responsibilities. I was furious. Support groups are meant to give support!!! Cant remember what ones they were but scentsy was one. Their business pages were full of pictures of disabled child syaing how buying things from them enables this child to have opportunities. Total exploitation

LionAndEmperor13 · 07/10/2024 10:47

Evil schemes. I had a former school friend contact me, we hadn't been in touch for nearly 20 years, but we were pretty close friends at school.
She found me on facebook and started banging on about her own business etc, I soon realised it was a MLM 'business'. She didn't even ask about my family - I had two very small kids at the time - just wanted me to be part of her 'team'. I blocked her.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 07/10/2024 10:47

I am not a violent person but the one thing that gets me homicidal is the concept if MLMs. It's rebranded pyramid selling (which is illegal) and what infuriates me is not just the economic impossibilities, but the culty "manifestation" bollocks that goes with it. It's unethical, immoral and frankly delusional capitalist clap trap at its worst. It preys on the vulnerable and can cause people to develop mental health issues, lose friends and family and if the Rapture was a real thing I hope the proponents of MLMs are all sucked off the planet into "Boss Babe Hun Heaven" and give the rest of the world (or social media at least) a bit of sodding peace.

Sorry. I haven't drunk enough tea yet today.

ThatAgileGoldMoose · 07/10/2024 11:00

cantthinkofausername26 · 07/10/2024 09:54

There's something about scentsy in particular that makes people feel they are changing the world! Avon sellers so just that, sell. But for some reason scentsy people seem to think they are running their own business and even go as far as wearing scentsy hoodies and having graphics made to stick on their cars! Cringe!!
I'm just ranting now, but glad to hear it's not just me that thinks it's all utterly ridiculous!

All part of the culture. Got to razz up the "glitz and glamour" to sell it to wide eyed innocents.

Avon is a less harmful one then most of them IMO. A lot of Avon reps just sell Avon, which is at least affordable, and they do make a small profit if they don't go crazy buying for themselves. The ones who are more into recruitment are more like the huns in other MLM schemes.

LadyPoison · 07/10/2024 11:09

I would love to join a women’s local business group but they all seem to be full of MLM reps desperately trying to network.🙄

ToTheCrystalDome · 07/10/2024 11:17

This is long but it's a fascinating insight into the dark world of MLMs by someone who got sucked in and escaped.

https://ellebeaublog.com/poonique/

Elle’s #Poonique Story

The index of Elle’s Poonique story.

https://ellebeaublog.com/poonique

Alina3 · 07/10/2024 11:28

ToTheCrystalDome · 07/10/2024 11:17

This is long but it's a fascinating insight into the dark world of MLMs by someone who got sucked in and escaped.

https://ellebeaublog.com/poonique/

This is the best gateway material for anyone interested in or considering joining an MLM. I go back and read it every couple of years. Taught me so much. Well worth reading.

BobbyBiscuits · 07/10/2024 11:30

The whole ethos of those MLM scams is 'fake it til you make it' most obviously never ever make it, in fact lose money. So they stick to faking it big time. It's all total bullshit.

KnottedTwine · 07/10/2024 11:53

What I don't understand is the professional, clever women doing it on the side. I have two people I know (one a mum from school, one an old school friend) who have been sucked in and are the full small business, living the dream, MLM paying for pony riding lessons or holidays, #soblessed.

One is a vet, the other is a registrar-level doctor in the NHS, married to a GP. Now neither of those jobs are poorly paid, these are not women struggling for money. So WHY get sucked into (Bodyshop at Home and Arbonne/Life Coaching) MLMs?

Suppose it just goes to show that doing well at school/uni, passing exams and having a professional job does not make you immune to scams.

Pinkandbluesocks · 07/10/2024 12:00

Wouldn't assume they're actually making money out of it.

There are some people who do, but not the majority. And we know they all get told fake it til you make it. So they'd be claiming to be doing well regardless of whether that's the truth.

Grey125 · 07/10/2024 12:02

I had colleague that sold Forever Living as a sideline and it was all about recruiting more people to move up the ranks as then they got bonus on new joiners pack, a bigger discount on buying and a small cut of their teams sales, so were always trying to sign anyone up along with touting the products . They went to regular team meetings and conferences (which I'm sure they paid for) and watched the motivational crap on YouTube too.

It seems a bit cult brainwashing, they too can make their millions and I'm sure some fake their success in order to attract more vulnerable underlings into the fold to increase their earnings. They teach them how to see anyone as a potential sale/recruit hence why they become such a nuisance, but it suits MLMs to socially isolate someone further so they lean into their MLM team echo chamber. Colleague used to reel off their quotes like "why make employers rich when you could work for yourself" not appreciating they were actually still working for forever living and making those up top richer.

Quite few people bought their products because they liked them but felt some items they'd tried were overpriced rubbish. Colleague was very much in denial about how much time/money they actually invested for their earnings and sure they would've earn't more p/hr in traditional part time job and had more of a social life. Even colleagues FL upper line manager was still doing their full time job few years on. They eventually set up an actual business related to job which became busier and they left to do that full-time.

Whothefuckdoesthat · 07/10/2024 12:16

Alina3 · 07/10/2024 09:31

They're not. It's smoke and mirrors. If an MLM hun is making noises with her mouth, they're lying.

This.

DH is fb friends with someone who quit her job to go full time as a ‘consultant’. She bought something very expensive and was bragging about how her business allowed her to buy it outright after only an couple of months work and that people should contact her if they wanted to be able to buy the same lovely things. Several months later, she’s ranting on FB because expensive thing doesn’t work as it should, and she’s sharing screenshots of complaint emails which referred to her buying on their finance plan.

Nothing wrong with that, but not quite the outright purchase she was pretending it was!

cantthinkofausername26 · 07/10/2024 14:43

This thread has certainly been an eye opener! Next time I see a pic of smiley teamies doing the peace sign I'll scroll on, satisfied in the knowledge that it's all bullshit, and they're all batshit!

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Womble75 · 07/10/2024 15:00

I did self assessments for a couple of scentsy reps a few years back. None of them made anything worthwhile and most profit went back into stock which they sat on for yonks or ended up selling at a loss. (Despite all the "boss babe" posts on FB)
They have all quit now due to the obscene price of the stuff combined with much better and more reasonably priced companies (not MLM) selling wax.
I quite liked the samples I got but there is no way I'm spending that much on a few squares of wax!

Alina3 · 07/10/2024 16:43

cantthinkofausername26 · 07/10/2024 14:43

This thread has certainly been an eye opener! Next time I see a pic of smiley teamies doing the peace sign I'll scroll on, satisfied in the knowledge that it's all bullshit, and they're all batshit!

Success!

Allthegoodnamesarechosen · 07/10/2024 16:57

GuestFeatu · 07/10/2024 09:48

The Orlando trips are glorified sales conferences - they get flights paid (at the most inconvenient because cheap slots) and accommodation but have to buy their own food/pay spends and spend the whole time at dismal company events. They are often very short trips with long haul flights and no time to actually enjoy. The photos of them enjoying their 'free holiday' are lies. The fancy cars are leased. The company pays their lease fee if they reach a certain level but they don't ever own the cars and they can lose them at any time if they drop levels. They also have to pay their own excess mileage etc and all the other additional expenses you can get with a leased car.

I’m amazed Herbalife are still going.

I had to do a business pitch ( for a legitimate professional service) to the head of the British operation about 25 years ago. When we turned up, instead of it being just the MD and his ‘accountant’ it was a roomful of ‘consultants’ who proceeded to drone on about the product benefits. It was really cult like.

There was a lunch break scheduled in the meeting, but we were not offered lunch, not even a sandwich. Instead they all pulled out their sachets and consumed them. Someone offered to SELL my partner and Me some. We went to the bar instead ( it was in a hotel) and left a polite message saying we didn’t think we would be quite right for their business.

Bonkers.

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