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To think the police should focus limited officers on crime not speedometers

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Chocstrawberries · 04/10/2024 16:24

The past two days I have driven past two speed checks, yet the last time I saw any police patrolling our high street is years ago. Given that we've got speed cameras I think the police should focus on patrols and solving burglaries and other crime until they get more officers to spare some for speeding. Or give speeding checks to traffic wardens.

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newnamethanks · 04/10/2024 22:25

Burglars and other crims have cars. A traffic stop often results in revealing other criminal behaviour.

maverickfox · 04/10/2024 22:27

A lot more people die on the road that they do with burglaries. I’ve been burgled so I know how awful it is but I’d rather be burgled than die because of a speeding driver.

CoughedBulldozerNumber · 04/10/2024 22:34

Number of people killed per year where speeding contributed to the cause ~12,000

Number of people killed per year due to violent crime ~600

Given that speeding is a breaking of the law committed by otherwise law-abiding individuals it seems like a pretty effective and rational use of law enforcement time to convince such individuals to respect all of the law.

mugboat · 04/10/2024 22:38

suburburban · 04/10/2024 22:11

@mugboat

Yes I agree but I still see people crossing roads distracted by phones rather than paying attention to the traffic and being g vigilant

So? I don't do that and neither do my children. We have the right to use pavements and crossings safely. a shame so many motorists get away with dangerous behaviour.

Marblesbackagain · 04/10/2024 22:53

suburburban · 04/10/2024 20:11

I do think it wouldn't do any harm for some pedestrians to take more care. Not really paying attention and on their phones doesn't help either

Now let's be very clear. The person responsible for the ton plus weight of moving metal has more responsibility.

Does the toddler who escapes a parent have responsibility? No, because the law across jurisdictions states a driver must be capable of an emergency stop. Speed limits are for safety of pedestrians.

StMarieforme · 04/10/2024 23:14

Speeding kills people.,maims others. Ask any paramedic.

HazeBaze · 05/10/2024 05:17

ClaredeBear · 04/10/2024 21:59

Omg, that's horrible! So good that the police were in the right place on this occasion.

It was a god send because I’m not good with conflict at all! I was winding my window down thinking “what am I going to say to him to justify me parking here” when as if like magic, these two police officers came and were like “sir, she can park here! What’s the problem?” And I was soooo relieved!
the police officers told me to continue parking and talked to the shouty guy until I left my car and crossed the street.
they didn’t have to step in, but they did and I was so glad!
they were so great and completely diffused the situation. And I didn’t even call them!

suburburban · 05/10/2024 07:24

Yes I totally agree about crossings and pavements etc and small dc.

I'm always very careful and anticipate stopping at crossings and am aware of pedestrians.

CagneyAndLazy · 05/10/2024 07:28

Chocstrawberries · 04/10/2024 16:30

I don't want people to speed either of course not. But in one of the checks I passed the officers were very visible and right by a speed camera. Both in 20mph areas. Nobody was speeding. I didn't feel like they were effective.

Nobody was speeding. I didn't feel like they were effective.

🤔

Phonomnomnom · 05/10/2024 12:33

Chocstrawberries · 04/10/2024 17:06

I live in London, in a 20mph area. Loads of speed cameras already because of ULEZ. So I can see it depends where you live.

ULEZ cameras aren’t speed cameras, they are ANPR (number plate recognition) cameras. They do not perform the same function. Speed cameras require the tools to measure speed over a set distance.

In addition, you probably saw a local speed watch initiative. Usually it’s specials with a volunteer for the community. You stand there for an hour and collect plates for anyone speeding. They will get a letter reminding them not to speed, not a fine, so it’s an awareness exercise, not a money-making one. The location is chosen from roads known to be hotpots for speeding.

Speed guns also have much longer ranges than cameras, so by the time you see the operator, they’ve already recorded your speed. The fact that they were standing near a speed camera (if it even was one, rather than an ANPR / ULEZ one) simply
means that it is a speeding hotspot.

Some poor woman was killed on a London bridge by a driver doing around 50 in a 20. She was crossing the road at a zebra crossing. If the driver had been doing 30, they believe she would have survived. Instead, he was more than double the limit and she is dead.

Speeding is a major issue and complaining that police resources are being used to save lives instead of protect property is wild.

Portakalkedi · 05/10/2024 12:51

I agree, surely speeding offences can mostly be dealt with by cameras and fines. More cameras would be necessary but cheaper than the alternative.

titbumwillypoo · 08/10/2024 19:50

We're way too soft in this country on bad drivers, Fines should be higher for speeding, anyone caught doing over 80 should get 6 points. Nobody should be allowed over 12 points no matter what "hardship" that may cause and councils should be able to raise revenue by fining pavement parking

MissRoseDurward · 08/10/2024 20:42

councils should be able to raise revenue by fining pavement parking

Which could go towards repairing the damage caused by pavement parking.

titbumwillypoo · 08/10/2024 21:52

MissRoseDurward · Today 20:42

councils should be able to raise revenue by fining pavement parking
Which could go towards repairing the damage caused by pavement parking.

And fixing potholes. It should be easy to enforce as a picture would be proof enough. It would do a lot of good as it would encourage people to be less selfish. Also it would be easy to go after all those people who think if you dig up your front garden to have a driveway but are too tight to pay for a dropped kerb.

JohnofWessex · 08/10/2024 22:00

More to the point its possible for The Police to issue points for bad parking and thats a penalty that hurts.

They are doing it in some areas where its a real problem

JenniferBooth · 08/10/2024 22:11

Caravaggiouch · 04/10/2024 16:39

But it’s a hell of a lot more likely to happen if they’re speeding. Or do you think the speed limits are just there for fun? Equally, your house could still be burgled even if every traffic police officer in the country was redeployed to an anti-burglary campaign. People deserve to be caught and punished for speeding too.

Spot the dangerous drivers on this thread 🙄

Some of which will be school run parents

Catsbreakfast · 08/10/2024 22:16

A friend was killed by a speeding reckless driver. Speeding is amongst the most harmful things people do that could easily be prevented

Catsbreakfast · 08/10/2024 22:18

titbumwillypoo · 08/10/2024 19:50

We're way too soft in this country on bad drivers, Fines should be higher for speeding, anyone caught doing over 80 should get 6 points. Nobody should be allowed over 12 points no matter what "hardship" that may cause and councils should be able to raise revenue by fining pavement parking

Agree, the guy who killed our friend for 18 months suspended sentence because they couldn’t prove anything but reckless driving. It’s insane. Had he stayed to help, his sentence would have been higher because they could have upgraded it. IMHO, if you leave someone in the road, maximum sentence should apply.

TooBored1 · 11/10/2024 19:06

BellaBlythe · 04/10/2024 18:12

So many laws are being made now that are aimed not at 'crime or criminal activity' but at catching people out. Recent penalty issued for woman offering a piece of furniture for recycling. It was classed as flytipping. what nonsense!
Similarly 5 or 10 mph over limit on a dual carriageway with light traffic and no pedestrians is harmless.
Life has risks. Do we want to restrict travel to walking pace, a flagman to precede each vehicle?
We do have one of the safest road systems in the world, why make life difficult just because we can.

Wasn't it a big piece of furniture left out for several days?

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