Harassed by kids in street

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On my daily walk in a woodland area just now I was harassed by a group of kids on their bikes. They were swearing, saying if I didn’t answer them they would smash my face in, and coming towards me on their bikes and swerving aggressively. I’ve never seen anything like it. They looked around 12.

I'm 5ft0 and autistic. I was alone. I felt scared.

What can I (realistically and legally) do if this happens again? Aside from reporting to police who won't care.

Irrelevant seeing as the CPS makes those charging decisions, not the Police. 😄

As I said on page 2, the last time I called police about criminal behaviour of some 12 year olds I basically got told to engage with them in a friendly way and see if I can’t remind them what good behaviour looks like.

I sound ancient but the world’s gone mad.

Stories like this remind me of the Sophie Lancaster case. Kids have a pack mentality sometimes so things can and do escalate. Realistically I'm not sure what you can do other than report to police and avoid areas where you feel vulnerable. It's not fair we have to limit where we go, but please be safe.

I'm ancient too, everytime someone says something like that crap (they are just kids) all I can think is so were Robert Thompson and Jon Venables.

There have been many more since them and too many recently.

You have my sympathy and well done for reporting it.

I had similar outside a village shop a long time ago. I got home, burst into tears and my husband went straight to the shop, found a bunch of kids hanging around and spoke to them. They initially gave him some lip at which point he absolutely gave them what for and made them move on.

I hate the fact that the kids got to me and that it took someone else, particularly a man, who was angry, bigger and stronger to get them to back off. I am not afraid of walking out and I haven't changed my behaviour, but that incident has really stayed with me.

So filming on my phone is okay?

Do you think their parents will care? They’ve produced such “angels” after all

Feral little shits

I don’t know. I would hope so but maybe not. I am sorry this happened.

I know you are not representing the CPS and neither are you chief constable.

I'm asking you , if you were in charge, what would you have liked to have seen doled out to these thugs-you declare their offences included arson and burglary.

If you were in in charge, would you have liked to have seen them placed under lock and key or did you think that telling them not to hang around together, was a suitable punishment for the havoc they caused.

What do you think?

If you don't want to say, fine, but it is certainly not irrelevant to ask an anonymous police officer on an anonymous forum, what their personal opinion is of a case which they themselves have detailed.

From your other posts, in which you advise people not to defend themselves and were appalled at my suggestions for dealing with them-none of which involved having a nice chat and telling them not to hang out together- I'm going to take a wild guess and assume that you think locking the wee bastards up is wrong.

Am I right?

🎵 In the clearing stands a boxer ... 🎵

I used to train in self defence and the number one thing they train officers to do is deescalate the situation. You do not want it to turn physical.

Physical is a last resort, because you are more likely to end up hurt.

Once adrenaline kicks in you don't know how your body will respond. We trained officers and civilians to reprogram their brains to fight properly if needed. Most people won't know how. Even cops freeze in moments of violence.

There's a bracelet you can buy that you break in the event you're robbed or being harassed and it lets out a seriously foul smell. It's enough to distract and cause the attacker to stop what they're doing and for you to get away.

Honestly, these days it's safer and easier to buy a walking pad and get exercise at home than venturing out. Particularly as the police are facilitating these feral creatures with their behaviour.

I see on YouTube humanoid robots being developed to the point where they'd be quite useful as personal security devices for women. We might even be able to go outside with confidence one day if we can be accompanied by something which could snap the legs off an attacker.
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Can't wait.

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Thanks everyone. I'm going to venture out on my usual walk this afternoon on my usual route. My plan (if I run into them) is to calmly film and walk away, then report to police again. I'll grip my phone tightly.

I can't let these arseholes ruin what has been a daily mental health ritual for years. Walking in a green space is a lifeline for an autistic person that (somehow manages to) work full-time.

I wouldn't film.

A man in Bristol was murdered a few years ago with racism being the driver but him filming DC abusing him and engaging in ASB on his 'phone led to accusations on social media of him being a paedophile which led to his murder.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Bijan_Ebrahimi#:~:text=James%20had%20falsely%20accused%20Ebrahimi,and%20setting%20fire%20to%20it.

Just report it to the Police.

That's what I was worried of (the peado thing).

But how will the kids be identified otherwise?

The Police very likely already know of them, you're unlikely to be the only person experiencing this.

You can get a baseball cap with a built in camera on it for about £15 on Amazon. Those kids don’t sound like they’d tolerate a mobile phone filming them by someone they have targeted as vulnerable enough to bully. That could potentially not end well.
Any footage of a repeat performance I’d upload publically on local platforms and ask for identification. Viral in no time at all and the awareness, humiliation, shame and hopefully wrath of the parents will be all theirs.
Old enough to know what they’re doing is wrong and old enough to deal with the consequences.
Maybe someone with a mobile phone can follow you discreetly and film them if they do it again. They probably already have themselves on camera harassing you to laugh at later on.

What little cunts.

DC?

Children. Shorthand on MN. He didn't just film adults with children present, he filmed groups of children who were engaging in antisocial behaviour and shouting abuse at him.

Which led to false accusations of him being a paedophile. Which contributed to his murder. The Police also massively contributed by telling him to stop filming as they felt he was inflaming the situation; but not dealing with his harassment and abuse and some Police were sacked following.

Similar happened to me about 15 years ago, but they were a bit older. I had a baby in a pushchair too. Yeah I was scared. My route took me over a road bridge and then a sharp turn into a short but winding and usually deserted lane. They followed at a short distance over the bridge, so I picked up my pace and as soon as I turned into the lane and was out of their sight I bloody legged it as fast as I could, pushchair pelting along. Baby was surprised but had a great time 😄

I can laugh now, but I was scared at the time. You know when your spider senses just go off and you feel something isn't right.

If you’ve been going there for years, the chances are you won’t see them again, but if you do, please Don’t film, don’t throw things, et cetera that only escalates.

So scary :( What were they doing?