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AIBU to overtake a hearse?

409 replies

confusedabouthormones · 01/10/2024 12:10

So today on the way home from school I had just pulled onto a dual carriageway and there was a hearse with some cars behind it. They were going to a near by crematorium. I pulled into the outside lane and drove past it.

My mother was in the car and she had a right go at me for being disrespectful and how she was embarrassed to be in my car. When I looked in my mirror no one else had passed the hearse.

Is this a thing? In my 30 odd years driving I've never heard this.

Was I being unreasonable to pass the hearse?

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Tellysavelas · 01/10/2024 12:59

Flugelb1nder · 01/10/2024 12:55

In my culture you wouldn't see someone overtake - as it is racing someone to their grave, very bad luck indeed - for you and anyone else in your car

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Well surely the hearse driver is ahead of the deceased so they’d get the bad luck.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 01/10/2024 13:00

Flugelb1nder · 01/10/2024 12:55

In my culture you wouldn't see someone overtake - as it is racing someone to their grave, very bad luck indeed - for you and anyone else in your car

Edited

But the hearse wouldn't be racing, would it? It would be going its normal slow pace and the vehicle passing would be gone and out of its way.

The thing is, we all lose people and we all have different views on this topic. Different cultures are fascinating though.

Saveusernsme · 01/10/2024 13:00

Oh a dual carriage way, of course you can. Many crematoriums are situated on busy stretches of road and the dual carriage has been put in to easy traffic flow.

Single lane Road, a big no no.

GabriellaMontez · 01/10/2024 13:01

It's fine to pass on a dual carriageway.

Beenhereforever1978 · 01/10/2024 13:01

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 01/10/2024 12:49

It also used to be much clearer who was part of the funeral procession with the funereal-type cars booked as many as needed. Now people are using their own cars, probably due to cost, but who on earth would know that they were part of the cortege?

Some funeral places used to loan out flags to go on cars; now that is helpful.

We were told by our funeral director to all have our lights on so it was clear who was following to traffic waiting at junctions and roundabouts. Didn't make a blind bit of difference and we still ended up with a kid in a Nissan micra in the cortege!

desparateidiot · 01/10/2024 13:01

its seen as disrespectful

I also let funeral cars into junctions, the hearse and the funeral party and if I am on foot I normally stop and bow my head - it may just be an age thing

CountAdhemar · 01/10/2024 13:01

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 01/10/2024 12:24

That's the second post I've seen this week where the first poster doesn't have a clue but dishes out their ill-informed viewpoint as fact.

Only the second?

Fluufer · 01/10/2024 13:01

It's fine on a dual carriageway. It can't be safe to drive that slowly on a dual carriageway or motorway anyway!

rewilded · 01/10/2024 13:02

On a dual carriageway, if I hadn't noticed the hearse I would have bowed my head in respect on overtaking. I would never overtake a hearse intentionally.

TheCatterall · 01/10/2024 13:02

Dual carriage way and motorways are acceptable overtaking occasions. Single lane roads - definitely not.

itwasnevermine · 01/10/2024 13:02

desparateidiot · 01/10/2024 13:01

its seen as disrespectful

I also let funeral cars into junctions, the hearse and the funeral party and if I am on foot I normally stop and bow my head - it may just be an age thing

On a dual carriageway? Surely not.

You can't stop on a main road to let 5+ cars out. It's dangerous. Maybe in less car-focused times it was easier but these days it's just not safe.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 01/10/2024 13:03

Beenhereforever1978 · 01/10/2024 13:01

We were told by our funeral director to all have our lights on so it was clear who was following to traffic waiting at junctions and roundabouts. Didn't make a blind bit of difference and we still ended up with a kid in a Nissan micra in the cortege!

So many cars now have automatic lights that I imagine it was a mistake. 'Lights on' isn't something I've heard of.

evilharpy · 01/10/2024 13:04

goodluckbinbin · 01/10/2024 12:39

Would it have killed you
to have waited and shown a little thought and respect for a family who have lost someone?
YABU. I would have waited. I’m from Ireland and a funeral procession can hold up traffic because no one wants to zoom past a hearse, which is how it should be.

I'm from NI and the main road between the local hospital and our town, where the local undertaker is, is a dual carriageway with a 70mph speed limit. Nobody would ever overtake a hearse in town or on a single lane, but equally nobody would ever sit behind a hearse on the dual carriageway. That's just not a thing.

starfishmummy · 01/10/2024 13:04

Dual carriageway is fine. I think the not doing it on other roads is so you don't have to cut in to the procession (if there is one) if there is oncoming traffic.

LyingWitchInTheWardrobe · 01/10/2024 13:05

CountAdhemar · 01/10/2024 13:01

Only the second?

It is only Tuesday and I've been out mostly. Grin

Boomer55 · 01/10/2024 13:05

Disrespectful. No wonder your mother was angry.

Drinkdrinkduuurink · 01/10/2024 13:06

Boobygravy · 01/10/2024 12:14

I wouldn't overtake, it's just a few minutes to show respect.

Yes.

Basic paying respect to the dead.

Your poor mum OP.

Hollietree · 01/10/2024 13:06

We have a dual carriage way and a funeral home close to where we live. So there are funeral cars on the road most days of the week.

Single lanes roads = absolutely no overtaking ever acceptable.

Dual carriage way = people here do drive past on the outside lane but much slower than speed limit. Eg the funeral cars are going around 30mph and people overtake at about 40mph and then speed back up to 70 only once they are well past and out of sight. If the funeral cars are coming up to a junction/roundabout then everyone hangs back behind.

Beenhereforever1978 · 01/10/2024 13:06

@LyingWitchInTheWardrobe this was many many years ago, but I agree that automatic lights these days would render it moot.

dazzlingdeborahrose · 01/10/2024 13:06

On a dual carriageway I would overtake snd I have done. As long as you weren't revving your engines and roaring past at 100mph you're fine. On a single carriageway of any description no you shouldn't.

Peregrina · 01/10/2024 13:07

On a dual carriageway it could have been a lot more than that, leading to fairly major congestion behind.

When my parents died the nearest crematorium was 15 miles away along a stretch of dual carriageway. I am pretty sure that the hearse itself speeded up when it was on it. OK, it wasn't doing 70 but it was going at the same speed as the lorries. When it turned off to the approach to the Crematorium then it slowed down.

evilharpy · 01/10/2024 13:07

WomenInConstruction · 01/10/2024 12:58

I like the old school approach of acknowledging someone else's funeral procession and adjusting your manners around it.
It gives a community feel, like, one of our number has fallen.
When I was a kid if a hearse went by most people on the pavement would stop turn to face the hearse with lowered head and take their hat off... Don't see that very often now.
It was good, felt like there was an awareness of other people and that we all touch each others lives.

But that has to be balanced with some pragmatism in cases where it would gridlock the motorway if we all crawled for 5 miles... So respectful, balanced with what's practically sensible would be a fair choice I think

That is very much still a thing here (town of about 10,000 people. When a funeral procession passes down the main street, many people including staff will stand outside the shops they were in with heads bowed.

DavidBeckhamsrightfoot · 01/10/2024 13:08

Beenhereforever1978 · 01/10/2024 13:01

We were told by our funeral director to all have our lights on so it was clear who was following to traffic waiting at junctions and roundabouts. Didn't make a blind bit of difference and we still ended up with a kid in a Nissan micra in the cortege!

Would procession really expect normal road rules not to apply such as Junctions, give way and roundabouts?

Smartphonesarerubbish · 01/10/2024 13:08

Probably rude but I don’t drive so not sure of etiquette

last year I pressed a pedestrian button crossing just as a hearse went past. I realised my error but it was too late. The hearse drove through and all the other cars with mourners in had to wait whilst I crossed the road. I still feel awful now when I think of it. I’m such a dick! It really messed up their procession
as other cars ended up behind and the hearse had to pull over and wait. I had to walk past and I could feel their eyes on me! Then about 20 minutes later I walked past the church as they were all getting out. 😭

Maddy70 · 01/10/2024 13:09

Awful behaviour sorry

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