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Having to "buzz for booze"

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Elendel · 29/09/2024 15:57

I understand why supermarkets do this, I really do. Theft, especially en masse, is a huge problem, and alcohol is among the most commonly stolen items. The locked shelves even look neat and smart.

However, I find the system hugely off-putting.

I feel like I'm being treated like a naughty child when I have to press the button and wait for a member of staff to get me a bottle of spirits (I like a good cocktail on a weekend).

I cannot go and read the bottle labels and explore new brands and flavours as I need to point at what I want and it is gotten within the shortest time possible before the doors are locked again.

The waiting around is inconvenient. I hate food shopping and try to do it in as little time as possible. I had to wait around a few minutes and felt compelled to make small talk with the elderly gentleman who was also waiting. I hate small talk at the best of times.

The waiting around is embarrassing. It wouldn't be too bad if I could press the button and the thing silently sent a message to a nearby member of staff. Instead, a loud, automatic voice keeps reminding me that they have alerted a member of staff to assist me. Again, for several minutes. I work in a school and prefer to buy my booze discreetly rather than announcing it to the whole shop, which may well contain some of my charges who'd just love to text their mates that Miss is buying raspberry-flavoured vodka.

It inconveniences staff. My local store has massively reduced its workforce since the introduction of self-service tills to the point that only one member of staff (who also has to hand out bags as they get taken, too) who runs around like a headless chicken between 20 tills the entire time. Shelves are barely restocked in busy times as it is and now it's ANOTHER thing on the list of staff to do.

I am a gentle person with a fair bit of patience. Many people around me really are not. So I assume that staff will now face even more abuse due to the inconvenience and waiting times.

I am honestly waiting to see what happens in the long run. Will the gain from less theft make up for the loss in custom? Will it make up for the maintenance and inevitable damage that will occur with these lockboxes? Will other stores have to follow suit as they will now have an increased share of shoplifters because it is far more convenient? Will meat, cheese and other high-value foods be next?

Yes, my liver will probably be grateful because I will drink far less, and my wallet will be happier because on the occasions I do, I will likely switch to wine. But for god's sake, are all the little pleasures in life slowly being taken away from us law-abiding folk because a few arseholes are spoiling it all for everyone else.

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Chillisintheair · 29/09/2024 15:59

It’s to make sure you’re 18. If they didn’t they would lose their license which would be more inconvient more you if you wanted to buy alcohol.

TickingAlongNicely · 29/09/2024 16:00

Buy it online?

One of Morrisons is like that, the other isn't. Its definitely more convenient at the open shelves one... I send DH list of special offers on the single malts and he let's me know which one to buy.

Elendel · 29/09/2024 16:00

Chillisintheair · 29/09/2024 15:59

It’s to make sure you’re 18. If they didn’t they would lose their license which would be more inconvient more you if you wanted to buy alcohol.

Our supermarket specifically says it's due to theft. I think an age check is a nice side effect, but happens when you pay anyway.

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CuttySarcasm · 29/09/2024 16:01

What supermarkets is this in? I’ve never seen that! It does sound annoying.

Comedycook · 29/09/2024 16:02

I've never seen this system before.

cardibach · 29/09/2024 16:02

I’ve not seen it either. Maybe it’s a location dependent thing. As a PP said, buy it online. Or in somewhere booze specific like Majestic.

CoastalCalm · 29/09/2024 16:03

We have that here in our local coop now for spirits as they have real issues with shoplifting , I’d rather a small inconvenience than have the staff put at risk from that plus price increases

Elendel · 29/09/2024 16:03

I don't buy online anymore, having had a few bad experiences with ridiculous swaps on drinks that I know my local supermarket definitely has in stock. And I go shopping once a week.

If it weren't such a faff I'd go to a different supermarket, but nowadays that involves signing up a whole new loyalty card scheme to get halfway reasonable prices.

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NahNotHavingIt · 29/09/2024 16:03

I just get it delivered with the weekly groceries.

cardibach · 29/09/2024 16:04

Not supermarket online, @Elendel Alcohol shop online. Or Amazon.

Elendel · 29/09/2024 16:04

CuttySarcasm · 29/09/2024 16:01

What supermarkets is this in? I’ve never seen that! It does sound annoying.

It's a Morrison's thing. I think they have been rolling this out across stores for a year now, but it's only recently hit our local one.

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Salmoney · 29/09/2024 16:05

If they've bothered to set this up and to be running with it then theft must be a huge huge issue. I worked in a small supermarket about 20 years ago and it was unbelievable the amount that was stolen; it's much worse now I can only imagine how much it costs them.

Whiskeyandkittens · 29/09/2024 16:06

We have two local Morrison's- the bigger one slightly further away has this, I don't really mind! The more local one has started putting empty boxes on the shelf that you have to take to the till for some of the spirits, that's more annoying as even if there's a box there they don't always have it in the drawers, so you either have to leave without or go back and choose something else when you've already been to the till.

Both have had huge issues with shop theft though so I understand why.

SlipperyLizard · 29/09/2024 16:06

I saw this in my local Morrisons recently, I wasn’t buying spirits but if I had been I might have gone elsewhere rather than hang around, unless it was a great bargain.

It is terrible that shoplifting has got so bad that they need to do this!

4405cd · 29/09/2024 16:08

Yes just introduced at our local Morrisons ,I just didn’t bother and went to Tesco instead!

SmileyHappyPeopleInTheSun · 29/09/2024 16:08

cardibach · 29/09/2024 16:04

Not supermarket online, @Elendel Alcohol shop online. Or Amazon.

This.

Or if you do supermarket on-line shopping we can specify which items not to substitute - though would still end up with no alcohol.

Instore system you describe would put me off - I'd just buy elsewhere probably on-line.

halava · 29/09/2024 16:09

Maybe they should set up a little "off licence"/ wine shop section within the supermarket, with an assistant and a till. You need your receipt to get out through the doors, like they do with self service tills in Europe. Would that work?

gamerchick · 29/09/2024 16:12

They've done this in both of the Morrisons near me. I don't buy alcohol there anymore as I definitely don't have the patience to wait for a member of staff. Asda do better deals on the Christmas drink anyway.

It's due to the shoplifting problem. There a proper issue with it here. They don't even bother to hide it anymore. I can't even see how to stops the shoplifters apart from filling bags up. They don't then accompany you to the till.

Elendel · 29/09/2024 16:12

Online alcohol shopping has a fair few of the inconveniences that I mentioned above. Not being able to get a decent feel for what I'm buying. Less choice. Having to wait around. Added to that delivery fees and/ or a need to bulk buy. I'm really not a fan of the online way for groceries.

As I said, I see this as the potential thin end of the wedge. Once we've got all the alcohol locked away, will it be meats and cheeses next? Formula milk? Perhaps we are heading towards a world in which in-person shopping is soon becoming a thing of the past and it will be click and collect only, for safety reasons.

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Doggymummar · 29/09/2024 16:13

I've never seen that, sound awful. Most shops is £40 for free delivery, I would get is delivered

TryingToHelpBut · 29/09/2024 16:13

Haven't seen this either but yes, potentially really annoying- especially at Christmas time. They'd be better off having a stand like the cigarette stand with someone there the whole time serving people. Surely there is still the opportunity to shoplift once they have got the spirts out for you anyway?

Buildingthefuture · 29/09/2024 16:14

I came across this in my local Morrisons for the first time this week. I appreciate it’s not their fault, people are obviously stealing a shit ton of booze, but I agree, it is annoying, I buzzed, no one came so I had to trail round the store looking for someone. I found a lady and she opened it for me, but then stood there giving me side eye as I loaded in the wine. I had half a trolley full of baby formula and baby food (for the local food bank!) and half a trolley full of wine because we had friends coming. She said it was an “interesting mix” 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️ I didn’t bother to reply but won’t shop there again! She thought I was an alcoholic with a newborn 🤦‍♀️

cookiebee · 29/09/2024 16:15

Well of course it’s all to do with the loss of profits at the supermarket, all the years I worked in one there were huge issues with booze theft. But making it hard to get to isn’t the worse thing in the long run and may happen anyway, it is a pretty devastating toxic drug that causes numerous societal problems!

But on a lighter note, it is funny imagining an alarm going off, when I was a teen I tried to discreetly check out a Barbra Streisand biography from the library, only for the assistant not to scan it correctly and the security alarm went off and the barrier locked on my trying to exit, embarrassing for a teenager, “I’ll need to rescan that security barcode on that BARBRA STREISAND book”, people in the queue looking me up and down!

TickingAlongNicely · 29/09/2024 16:15

At ur Morrisons with the system, you pay for the alcohol at the special till in the booze section.

Elendel · 29/09/2024 16:20

I actually think this will make assaults on shop staff more likely. Once the door is open, what's to stop someone from pulling a knife at you to get the booze and/ or the key. The staff at my local shop know me well, because I've been going there for years and always chat at the tills while packing, but there must be so many people they'd rather not open to door to.

And I couldn't be doing with the obvious judgement that a PP mentioned.

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