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Feeling very uneasy and not sure what to do.

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BintuBombatu · 25/09/2024 14:01

I can’t believe I’m typing this- it gets weird.

We’re visiting the UK from another country and staying in a 4-star hotel in central London for seven nights. Just me and my husband (both in our 40s), we’ve prepaid for our stay.

When we arrived to Room A, we realised we were looking right on to Thames Water building works so there was noise but we knew we’d be out and about all day so not overly bothered. However, after our first night, we were subjected to hammering and drilling and general building noise in the room next door to us. It was so bad that our wardrobes were vibrating. This was at 10am on a Sunday morning and we were going out for the day so figured we’d see if it was a once-off.

Morning two and the noise was worse and started at 8am. I was hoping it would be short-lived but after showering etc I walked into the hallway and it looks like a lot of rooms were having work done as room doors were open, there were debris bins outside and builders coming and going. The noise was unreal.

So I went to reception, explained the issue and was told they’d move us but didn’t have a room until other guests checked out so we were to pack our luggage and they’d move it all, and we could collect keys when we return.

We were perfectly happy with that, packed our bags and left the hotel (together) for the day a bit before 10am, collecting keys to Room B that night when we returned to the hotel after 11pm (perfectly sober! Before anyone asks). As promised, our luggage had been moved for us and the room was of the same category as A but without all the noise issues.
That was Monday.

This morning (Wednesday), we were having a late morning when our room phone rang and the General Manager asked if he could come up to speak to us.

On arrival, my husband met him at the door. I was sitting in the room (had assumed he’d come in but they started the conversation at the door).

He referenced that we’d asked for a move and asked if there was an issue with Room A. Husband reiterated that room was fine but noise was an issue, especially from the works within the hotel.

GM then goes on to say that housekeeping have reported an issue with Room A and did we know anything about it? Apparently, when housekeeping attended the room this morning (Wednesday- we had left it Monday morning) they found that someone had urinated heavily all over the bed, floor, and bathroom, soaking the quilt and mattress.

At this stage, I moved from where I was inside the room and asked the GM to step inside because this is a conversation I really didn’t want to have overheard. It’s a busy hotel and people were walking past.

At the risk of sounding like I’m protesting too much- I can categorically say that we did not do this. Just to be clear. We’re perfectly normal people who don’t go around pissing on carpets. There was no urine anywhere when we left the room on Monday morning, and we didn’t step foot in to it after that.

The GM had a notebook and said he needed to investigate the matter. I said fine and went through the timelines with him of our move on Monday. I think both my husband and I appeared quite shocked because we genuinely hadn’t expected this.

I asked if the urine had been present when the person who was moving our bags from Room A to B had been in, but he couldn’t tell me (so I’m assuming not as surely they’d have noticed?)

My husband and I were very factual- we’re sorry that hotel staff had to deal with this but we were not involved. At this stage, the GM changed tack and said he was more concerned from a wellbeing perspective and wanted to make sure that the person who did this didn’t have some kind of a medical issue that meant they required additional supports. We assured him that we do not have any medical issues.

He thanked us and left.

I’m feeling very uneasy. I’m so uncomfortable with the inference that we did this. We’re staying for another three nights and have pre-paid (over £2k) and the hassle and expense of finding a new hotel now would be a nightmare.

I get that the GM has to investigate issues like this, but I think coming to us without any clear timelines and not being able to answer the questions we had put us in a position almost like we’re having to prove we didn’t do this.

To be honest, this has really put a dampener on our trip. Walking through reception earlier, I felt embarrassed and that staff were looking at us. Probably an element of paranoia but it’s genuinely how I felt.
We’ve stayed in this hotel a number of times over the years and have never had any problems.

I’d love to know people’s thoughts on this one, especially if they’ve worked in hotels. I’m hoping this is the end of the matter but I’m wondering what a fair response would be if he comes to speak to us again?

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Sugarplummama · 25/09/2024 14:05

I’d complain. What an awful experience for you. See if you can get a refund.

Giggorata · 25/09/2024 14:17

I would carry on as normal and try not to let it spoil things.

If the GM came to speak about it again, I would get very cross.
How dare you, we have stayed here frequently without incident, valued guests who shouldn't be subjected to this kind of treatment sort of thing.
We have already answered your questions and that should be enough.
We do not accept any blame in this matter and will not have it foisted upon us.

I am sorry that this has happened.

poppyzbrite4 · 25/09/2024 14:21

I don't understand why moving hotels would be such a big deal. Can't you use something like booking.com and change? I would ask for a partial refund firstly for the noise and secondly for the 'investigation'.

BintuBombatu · 25/09/2024 14:33

poppyzbrite4 · 25/09/2024 14:21

I don't understand why moving hotels would be such a big deal. Can't you use something like booking.com and change? I would ask for a partial refund firstly for the noise and secondly for the 'investigation'.

I’ve looked at other hotels and can’t find anything of a similar quality in a similar location for less than £400/night and I don’t want to pay that out on top of what’s already been a very expensive holiday (this is week two- we were in a different European country last week). Any refund from the current hotel would take a while to reissue.

Apart from that, we have a fairly busy itinerary and I don’t want to spend time moving all of our luggage yet again.

Lastly, and my main reason, I think leaving makes us look guilty.

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Lurkingandlearning · 25/09/2024 15:10

I’m so glad you had the presence of mind to ask if the urine had been there when your bags were moved. It really couldn’t have been or surely you’d have been given a refund for your remaining nights and told to leave. The GM hadn’t thought it through. Had he genuinely been concerned for you he would have asked to go in your room rather than embarrassing you in the corridor. It’s such an extraordinary problem I really think you should be given a decent refund.

It’s bizarre. From your description of the extent of the soaking it must have been more than one person or one person returning to the room several times. I assume there’s no CCTV in the corridor.

BintuBombatu · 25/09/2024 15:50

Giggorata · 25/09/2024 14:17

I would carry on as normal and try not to let it spoil things.

If the GM came to speak about it again, I would get very cross.
How dare you, we have stayed here frequently without incident, valued guests who shouldn't be subjected to this kind of treatment sort of thing.
We have already answered your questions and that should be enough.
We do not accept any blame in this matter and will not have it foisted upon us.

I am sorry that this has happened.

Thank you. I think that’s the approach I’m going to take.

I’m just so annoyed and think the GM handled it so badly.

@Lurkingandlearning I’m also glad that I could think rationally enough to ask that! I was just so shocked I’m amazed I could speak, let alone think straight. It was all so surreal. I wasn’t long out of the shower so was sitting there with wet hair being asked if I had pissed all over a hotel room 50 hours previously. Just beyond belief really.

I was going to ask about CCTV but then I figured that that would just mean that he had another thing to come back to me about, whereas I just wanted him to leave. I did ask if he’d spoken to all of the builders and he didn’t confirm so I really feel like his “investigation” was quite lopsided.
(And not because I think builders go around pissing everywhere, but because there were so many of them about, surely they’d have seen people coming and going?)

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toomuchfaff · 25/09/2024 15:51

in expensive hotels they sometimes know when key cards were used at what time etc. If the urine wasn't reported by the employee moving the bags, was anyone else entering the room after?

BintuBombatu · 25/09/2024 15:52

Also, surely if you’re the type of person who likes to piss all over hotel rooms, you don’t do it when you have five more nights to stay?

I’m getting cross now… think the shock is wearing off.

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BintuBombatu · 25/09/2024 15:53

toomuchfaff · 25/09/2024 15:51

in expensive hotels they sometimes know when key cards were used at what time etc. If the urine wasn't reported by the employee moving the bags, was anyone else entering the room after?

I didn’t ask that either (didn’t think of it) but we did have Room A key cards with us all day, and then they were updated for Room B when we got back to the hotel after 11pm.

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toomuchfaff · 25/09/2024 15:55

they will have cctv in the corridors, see it on murder programmes all the time lol, get them to check footage.

Cosycover · 25/09/2024 15:59

I'd ask to speak to him again. The way he has went about this is out of order.

ForSereneBluePombear · 25/09/2024 16:07

What a shambles. Of course assuming neither of you urinated everywhere in room A. Firstly ridiculous noise, then being asked if you damaged the previous room. I’d ask for a partial refund if I were you. You should ask if they can see on CCTV, there should be cameras in the hallways, and double check who had access to the room, if they haven’t already done that. Could the room have been left open for anyone to walk in such an another guest etc

ThisPresetIsSelected · 25/09/2024 16:14

How do you get the bed, floor AND bathroom? Surely multiple incidents?!

I think you'd have some idea if it'd been there a day or two, or was fresh, as well.
How gross. I'm a bit sympathetic with the hotel and don't blame them for asking but that should have been discreetly AND after investigating who had access and when.

Saz12 · 25/09/2024 16:16

That's awful! If anyone says anything more, I'd tell them exactly how ridiculous and offensive this is.

BintuBombatu · 25/09/2024 20:54

I’m still dwelling on this and feeling angrier.

Does anyone know who is generally above the GM of a large hotel? Is there typically a Director of Operations for each hotel, or do I need to approach the corporate office? At the moment, I want to send an email to document the issue. I also want to ask for an update on the “investigation”.

This is a hotel in a large chain- imagine Radisson or similar.

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ThisPresetIsSelected · 25/09/2024 23:45

Don't let it spoil your trip. I bet you'll laugh about it in future! If that's that and they haven't pestered you again, I'd just resolve to send an email about it when you get back. Two days after you vacated the room, they are clearly clutching at straws.

Didimum · 25/09/2024 23:56

I’m not sure if this warrants feeling so angry. It sounds as if he was polite enough and just doing his job, it’s bad luck you happened to have stayed in that room. If there were builders on that floor, sounds like they’ve visited!

BintuBombatu · 26/09/2024 07:20

Didimum · 25/09/2024 23:56

I’m not sure if this warrants feeling so angry. It sounds as if he was polite enough and just doing his job, it’s bad luck you happened to have stayed in that room. If there were builders on that floor, sounds like they’ve visited!

Would you really not be angry about the manager of a hotel standing outside your room asking you if you’d pissed all over the bed and floor?

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underused · 26/09/2024 07:34

Didimum · 25/09/2024 23:56

I’m not sure if this warrants feeling so angry. It sounds as if he was polite enough and just doing his job, it’s bad luck you happened to have stayed in that room. If there were builders on that floor, sounds like they’ve visited!

I'd be absolutely fuming tbh! As the OP said, he hasn't exactly thought it through before speaking to them, and I'd be feeling judged every time I walked through reception.

I would also be writing a strongly worded email to someone higher up in the chain, explaining the time line and letting them know how upset I was about it.

IamnotSethRogan · 26/09/2024 07:48

BintuBombatu · 26/09/2024 07:20

Would you really not be angry about the manager of a hotel standing outside your room asking you if you’d pissed all over the bed and floor?

I would be but also maybe he wasn't sure it was appropriate to come in the room especially as it was in the morning and people might not be ready for the day.

This situation isn't very comfortable for the Manager but he does have to ask. There might not be anything in the GM handbook about how to ask guests who are still staying in the hotel if they pissed everywhere so he's winging it a bit.

It's a shit situation but I'm sure he realises that you're just not the sort of people to piss all over a room, especially when you're still staying there.

Hopefully this will be resolved and it will be one of those funny stories you tell eachother.

twomanyfrogsinabox · 26/09/2024 08:03

They surely would have noticed as soon as they walked in the room the first time to move your luggage if it had been in that condition at the time. And I would have expected them to strip the room at the same time, seems odd to leave that for a couple of days.

It also sounds like a very blunt approach by the GM, practically accusing you when he knew you had vacated the room days before.

Sounds more like someone with a grievance doing deliberate damage, a disgruntled builder maybe? Did they get told off for starting work so early and disturbing you?

Tapestree · 26/09/2024 08:09

I understand why you'd be shocked, but the manager had to raise this issue with you surely. Coming into your room could have seemed confrontational.

RhubarbieRhubarbie · 26/09/2024 08:12

I would ask for a calm word with the manager and say we are feeling really upset that you asked us, who have been guests in this hotel more than once without incident, if we did such a thing, especially when we were already undergoing the inconvenience of moving rooms after all the noise, and two, there are countless builders and other workers walking around. We feel really uncomfortable staying in the hotel and feel we may need to escalate this.

Express yourself, ger a bit of power back and hopefully get some VIP treatment / refunding.

It is absurd that he asked you given the circumstances, in my opinion.

Didimum · 26/09/2024 08:40

BintuBombatu · 26/09/2024 07:20

Would you really not be angry about the manager of a hotel standing outside your room asking you if you’d pissed all over the bed and floor?

Not unless he was rude, aggressive or insisted I was the culprit. It doesn’t sound like he was. He’s the general manager and has a duty to investigate a very horrible incident in his hotel. It sounds as if he tackled the very awkward conversation as well as he could, and I doubt he’s ever encountered an incident like that before.

Regarding standing in the corridor – You invited him in and he came in. I don’t think it’s appropriate for him to ask to enter your room without you inviting him in first.

Welshmonster · 29/09/2024 19:46

Why wasn’t the room
cleaned on the same
day and put back into service as they were planning on leaving you in the room with all the noise etc. they can’t come back 2 days later and claim it was you.