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To think my partner can be my witness?

15 replies

FaithD · 24/09/2024 23:19

I am applying for my Irish Citizenship.

This is the list of possible witnesses:

https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/passports/how-to-get-your-application-witnessed/#List%20of%20approved%20witnesses

So 'lecturer' is an option and he is an assistant professor. He says as he is only assistant it might not count!

I think this can't possibly be true and he will work just fine?

How to get your passport application witnessed

https://www.ireland.ie/en/dfa/passports/how-to-get-your-application-witnessed#List%20of%20approved%20witnesses

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Suzuki70 · 24/09/2024 23:22

I think anything that would be described as teacher or lecturer on the drop-down menu of broader jobs, for something like car insurance, should be fine.

I can do it under "Financial Adviser" although my actual job title is not that.

FaithD · 24/09/2024 23:24

@Suzuki70 that's what I would have thought!

He has me second guessing. Surely would have said Senior Lecturer or something otherwise?

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FaithD · 24/09/2024 23:25

@SkaneTos how do I get this thread moved to Craicnet? Thanks.

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eggandonion · 24/09/2024 23:30

Does he lecture?
Assistant professor isn't really a grade in Ireland. Is he a researcher full-time or teaching?
If he lectures he is a lecturer. (In Cork anyway)

Zonder · 24/09/2024 23:32

Are you sure he is allowed, as your partner?

I couldn't sign my husband's passport form.

FaithD · 24/09/2024 23:35

All it said @Zonder is that he must be known to me. And frankly, how are they going to know either way?

Yes he does.@eggandonion but in England

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Widowedyoung83 · 24/09/2024 23:40

They call and do an intense back ground check.

We use a priest.

If its not on the list you can't use them and they genuinely prefer someone irish.

They may ask for an affidavit ( did for my middles passport after my husband passed)

It's very strict, if not on the list they will send back.

Now any questions you have call the embassy in London. As he is your partner they will say no. But if you refer to family friend and clarify you can use.

If you have a parish priest always golden with them. I've an Irish friend who is a deputy head... and that was a firm no.

But honestly as strict as they are it depends who is doing your application.

Good luck I'm in the process for my youngest and I will need a solicitor again ( apparently they do not recognise a British death certificate) but like I say depends who you get on the phone.

Mama2many73 · 24/09/2024 23:58

Job wise I'd say yes,
But relationship wise I'd say no.
We are in UK , My DH could not sign my great nieces passport as they were 'related' through our marriage, even though he is not a blood relative. I think the fact he is in a relationship with you would stop him from being able to be your witness.

FaithD · 25/09/2024 00:01

@Mama2many73 ah I see

I do find it a bit strange that this isn't mentioned on the paperwork

My recollection from the UK passport is they are very clear about the fact it can't be a partner

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Mama2many73 · 25/09/2024 00:09

FaithD · 25/09/2024 00:01

@Mama2many73 ah I see

I do find it a bit strange that this isn't mentioned on the paperwork

My recollection from the UK passport is they are very clear about the fact it can't be a partner

The passport can't be signed by any relative. even if by marriage. I used that example of why it may not be legally acceptable. I assume that citizenship is viewed in a similar way ie it is legal document which could be/will be checked.
as a Head teacher my dh is very careful who he signs for. He would nt risk his position by stating an 'incorrect relationship' ie family friend instead of uncle.
The authorities will check up.

FaithD · 25/09/2024 00:44

@Mama2many73 I understand what you are saying. So no doubt I'll find someone else now

But I just mean we are both very private people so I cant imagine how they would check or look into an unmarried couple

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FaithD · 25/09/2024 00:45

The other thing I've been reading is to make sure the witness will pick up the phone!

I tried my doctor but she said no too busy basically. Pharmacist on the list as well - he knows me by name/face after 4 years of being a local so maybe.

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eggandonion · 25/09/2024 08:52

Does your partner have a colleague who you know?

Mama2many73 · 25/09/2024 18:15

FaithD · 25/09/2024 00:44

@Mama2many73 I understand what you are saying. So no doubt I'll find someone else now

But I just mean we are both very private people so I cant imagine how they would check or look into an unmarried couple

They will phone. They will ask how he knows you ans may ask how ie relationship?

My DH wouldn't lie for anyone as it would risk his job. Not sure if your partner would be happy doing that.

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