Katie Price and other celebs

[Justadisneyprincessnot]

Dh and I were having a discussion about minor celebs. Katie Price is one example, not just her but others. Lauryn Goodman is another example off the top of my head. Basically anyone who gets famous with no real talent, maybe for appearing on a reality show. Or maybe ex soap stars/singers trying desperately to stay in the limelight. Doing only fans for example. Set up pap photos. Doing embarrassing tv shows.

They often end up selling their lives and their children's lives for a quick buck.

I said that a lot of the time they are selling their souls and often end up with nothing.

Dh was sort of arguing that it was worth it because they are able to have good lifestyles, nice holidays, cars, big houses.

I argued that it's usually a very fake lifestyle. Living beyond their means, forced to resort to humiliating photos and tv appearances to keep up with the lifestyle. Attracting users and hangers on. Often ending up with substance misuse and eventually bankrupt.

Dh was adamant that these sort of people had been able to fund a good life and go places and have things that a lot of people could only dream of.

I agree with you look at Katie Price she has lost custody of her four youngest children Harvey lives full time in college. She’s bankrupt twice no stable relationship no house as been repossessed

Lauryn Goodman, as I understand, is famous for having two children with a footballer (think they were having an affair at one point).

Lauren Goodger is a different person (from Towie I think).

I only knew who Lauryn Goodman was because she's now appeared on celebs go dating. Again though, she seemed so unhappy. I think it would be really humiliating to have all your dirty laundry aired like that.

Fair enough. They’re all from the same ilk. Being convinced that selling your whole self to the public is the way to a glorious lifestyle, but the cost comes with having given your whole self, many before they even knew who they were as people yet. I can’t imagine how difficult it is to sell a personality to the world then have to keep that up for a paycheque for as long as possible.

@LostTheMarble I agree.

I don't think I could do it and I can see why so many end up with mental health problems.

Although perhaps they'd have ended up like that anyway, who knows.

I don't imagine Katie Price has a single person around her who has her best interests at heart, she's surrounded by people who are out for what they can get from such a young age.

I'm not saying she's blameless for everything, but the vast majority of us have been talked out of things that were a bad idea, I really don't think she has that.

I really hope she is on the way back up from rock bottom, she's surrounded really needs a good solid friend, and I don't imagine her life right now is worth the trade off.

I can't say I'd feel the need to care either way. I'm not a fan of Katie Pwyssh but couldn't care less if she pretends to be loaded while being bankrupt.
As for the one who got preggo off a married footballer twice, well, he needs to pay for his kids. And he's loaded. If someone chooses not to use a condom for five minutes and it costs them tens of thousands a year as a consequence then so be it.
He's grim that fella though. Apparently he goes to the spa and wanks off and pisses on the floor. None of the female masseuses will work with him as he tries to molest them.

I hold my hands up I am bad enough for watching some of these shows and following people on Instagram. It's the modern day equivalent of the gossip mags.

On celebs go dating some of them had sex and were then dumped by the 'celeb'. All well and good when you're young and glam trying to make a name for yourself. But the industry is saturated and inefficient say you'll just be the woman who shagged on TV.

By the way, I happened to see some pics of KP on the Daily Mail this morning while I was looking for another article. She looks "happy". As in, her face is making the right shapes. However she looks painfully thin and frankly awful. She's hanging around with people the age of her own kids and doing god knows what,

Katie Price doesn't really fit that mould does she? She was a glamour model from an early age & very very successful.

It constantly amazes me that every generation ignores the wisdom of the previous one. Read any religious text or book of modern psychology or just ask an older person. Money and material objects do not make you happy. It’s a simple fact. Watch your kids if you want proof. Whatever it is they want this week, whether it’s a toy or a new pair of trainers it will only make them happy for a short time and then they will want the next thing. And it’s the same for every adult in the world including you and every other celebrity.

Don’t believe me? Do you think Princess Diana was any happier than Jane Smith from down the road? Of course not. To be happy we need an average standard of living in comparison to those around us, but the key is having loving and supportive relationships and meaningful work. That’s it. That’s the secret of happiness.

So, of course a celebrity is not happier than anyone else. However rich and successful we are, we still have to carry on our daily lives and relate to those around us.

Honestly, this has been true since the beginning of time.

@luckylavender well yes she had a career in her own right. Although they called it glamour modelling but what it actually was stripping off as a teenager and selling topless photos.

How many of us would want that for our 16 year old daughters? However well paid.

She has been successful in that she made a lot of money. But where has it got her? She's attracted losers and hangers on. Part of her appeal was the shock value. It doesn't seem as though she's ever been happy.

I don’t think anyone can doubt that there isn’t a career and there are certainly opportunities but the industry is cruel to women. Stacy Solomon isn’t someone I follow but she clearly has a thick skin as I remember how awful the media have been about her over the years and it’s good to see she has invested wisely and done well - it’s possible. Just that most of the time these women are involved very young and get their mental health ruined and people just assume it’s all about the money. When you get to a certain level of fame and income it’s hard to step away from it. Charlotte from Geordie Shore was treated so badly by everyone around her she is a good example of this. Most of the time all anyone wants is a better life for themselves

@Justadisneyprincessnot - I agree with you totally. I personally cannot stand Katie Price. But lumping her in with reality tv celebs isn't quite accurate. Back in the day she was known as someone with a sound business head. It was a career she chose and directed. It didn't just happen to her. And for a long time she was very successful.

There's no right or wrong answer really as it's a subjective choice. You might think KP would have had a better life getting a job in Tesco and settling down with the boy next door, but clearly she didn't. The thing with these people is that like them or loathe them, they are not really the Jo Averages of the population. They have something about them, be it looks, superficial charm, the ability to act a bit, that gives them opportunities to live a life outside of the hum drum options open to most of us. They can then choose whether to go that route or not, no one forces it upon them, and no one forces them to stick with it.

I think Katie was in the right place at the right time, she took opportunities that were available and I don’t think she was exploited half as much back then, but what you see of her now is the implosion of years of bad decisions and the loss of her main commodity which was her looks in the eyes of the industry - women who are seen as ‘old’ are not valued. All of her business ideas that were once successful are now dated and no one is interested - she didn’t move with the times to stay current, she didn’t invest money and she got older. She didn’t adapt with the changing times, lads mag days are over and I think she completely lost her way with her brand, didn’t have (or take) any good advice and now she is shilling herself on line doing more and more degrading things to try to earn an income. I’ve seen bits and bobs she is shilling cheap clothes on TikTok like a QVC host - but so are most of Geordie Shore girls. And only fans

Yes. I don't personally loathe any of these people. Also I know that not all celebs are exactly the same or came to fame in the same way.

I just think that some end up resorting to quite degrading things and still seem to end up either very unhappy or bankrupt.

Makes me think of Chuck Palahniuk’s Invisible Monsters really.

Good looks only get you so far because ageing happens to us all so if it’s all you have to go on, you’re going to have a heck of a lot of emptiness for most of your life. I think this is the case with KP, however much she tries to fight the ageing process. She has slowly become more and more irrelevant, not in the least because younger generations see women as more than just big tits. I feel sorry for her and others like her to be honest, they have nothing going for them at all so feel the need to completely sell all sense of dignity.

@TheLever yes I thought that she should have moved with the times more. She was actually very popular at one point.

I'm sure that she could have had more successes doing different things that are more relevant in the modern world.

Another example is Stacey Solomon. She became famous for doing X factor and she is now a tv presenter and has her own home and clothing range.

All very honest ways to earn a living and she's doing well.

But again, she posts her kids all the time on her Instagram. Their bedrooms, them in nappies. I suppose it's all part of selling her lifestyle and her brand.

But then people rip her to shreds on Tattle for example. Post photos of her kids zoomed in slagging off their looks, her parenting, slagging off her family.

Is it really fair for her to expose her kids to that type of thing when they are too young to have a say?

Its a personality type. Some people want to live on a merry go round, others want a roller coaster and will take risks of lows in order to get the highs. Is it better to end up with nothing but at least to have experienced living your dream, or to never have had the highs in order to avoid the lows? Different people will have different views. Plus, I doubt very much if when they embark on their journey they think they will end up bankrupt.

The issue is that you're looking at it from your own perspective rather than hers. Your values are likely to be very different to KP as are mine. So the idea that I would be content to live her life simply for fame and easy money (I know she's skint now but she's squandered a lot of cash) is utterly beyond my comprehension.

But for her it was a shot at a life she would probably never get to lead coming from her social, economic and educational status. She has little of any talent beyond glamour modelling and selling herself and her children as commodities. It's a trade off she's had to accept because it has given her more than she could have dreamed of. And the more you do it the more extreme you have to be to keep the interest and therefore the money coming in. Hence the endless and increasingly ridiculous cosmetic surgeries and the parade of boyfriends and children.

@NashvilleQueen yes I do get that and I am trying to understand that. Like others have said, it's a different personality type.

It seems to me though that a lot of celebs seem to go full circle and end up with nothing or very little.

I would be interested to know if someone like KP would make the same choices again if she could go back to being 16.

I am old and my experience of life has shown me that the more attention a person needs the less at peace they are with themselves.

Being at peace with yourself is way, way more wonderful than any amount of big houses.

Feel sorry for the attention seekers; they are not happy.

I think she's a deeply unhappy person. There's definitely trauma in her formative years which she hasn't dealt with. I actually suspect she has a deep loathing of men.