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AIBU?

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Reclining seat on a plane

223 replies

darksideofthemooncup · 19/09/2024 17:38

I don't think I was being unreasonable but wanted to get others' take on it. BA economy flight, middle seat, man in front of me reclined his seat then had a go at me because he could feel my knees through the back of his seat. I explained that a 5,10'', short of amputation there wasn't a lot I could do about it and perhaps the problem was more about him reclining his seat onto my knees. At which point he then doubled down and said I should book first class. I'm afraid I didn't cover myself in glory and told him in no uncertain terms where to go. So, my position is that on economy flights where space is limited, just because you can recline your seat, it doesn't mean you should, AIBU?

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WhatNoRaisins · 19/09/2024 18:01

I'm sure if the OP could have moved further back she would have. No one is going to want to have their knees pressed against the seat in front.

darksideofthemooncup · 19/09/2024 18:02

CoralReader · 19/09/2024 17:58

If you don’t want to have people recline on you don’t fly economy

I wasn't the one with the issue, he had the issue with me because he could feel my legs when I moved and had a go at me about it!

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TeenLifeMum · 19/09/2024 18:02

Wow, dh is 6foot and never has this issue. I had it once when I reclined and the guy behind turned out to be 5ft 4 ish (same as me when we stood up) yet shoved his knees in my back and wiggled the whole flight. I reclined to increase space for the toddler on my lap.

thestudio · 19/09/2024 18:03

Reclining your economy seat is a dick move.

Second dick move is complaining that your knees are getting in the way of his first dick move.

Srsly - what did he expect you to do?!

Fairysteps11 · 19/09/2024 18:04

So what do you suggest she does with her knees in the meantime? Take them off and put them in the overhead storage?!
Op, you are being very unreasonable to have knees! Take them off next time. Maybe they can go in the hold or they can accompany the pilot?

notimagain · 19/09/2024 18:05

poila · 19/09/2024 17:44

Reclining seats is fine, if you needed more space you could recline yours back too. People are going to be trying to sleep or stretch out even on short flights, as it may just be a connecting one for them.

Agreed.

A “never ever recline in daylight” rule might just about be OK for some airlines but with any of the networked operators there are often a decent number of connecting passengers and some of those may just like or need another hour or twos sleep in the seat on a short haul sector.

SpinyNorma · 19/09/2024 18:05

The extra comfort you get from reclining is so meagre compared to the misery you inflict on the person behind. It really shouldn't be a thing in economy short haul.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/09/2024 18:06

darksideofthemooncup · 19/09/2024 18:00

He also suggested that I decline my seat, as there was a family with small children on their laps behind me, I didn't think that would have been very fair on them

And that’s the difficulty- where one person can recline but another is unable to - so you were stuck behind a recliner but couldn’t recline yourself in order to reclaim some space.

GertrudePerkinsPaperyThing · 19/09/2024 18:06

I find it uncomfortable to sit bolt upright myself due to back issues but would feel sheepish to recline on a flight such as the one you describe.

Woahtherehoney · 19/09/2024 18:07

Phen0menon · 19/09/2024 17:57

I explained that a 5,10'', short of amputation there wasn't a lot I could do about it and perhaps the problem was more about him reclining his seat onto my knees.

Well there often is - a hell of a lot of people slump forward with their bum a good 3-4 inches away from the seat back. Moving your bum right back into the seat can bring your knees away from the seat back. Id be amazed if a 5ft 10 persons knees are touching the seat in front if their bum is fully back into their own seat.

So the man can get comfy reclining his seat, but OP isn’t allowed to sit in a comfortable way for her?

Threesacrow · 19/09/2024 18:07

When the cabin lights go down, it's night time. Recline your seat. When the cabin lights are on it's daytime, respect your neighbours and put your seat upright again. How difficult is that?

Iwantmyoldnameback · 19/09/2024 18:07

I have never found reclining to be at all comfortable and it certainly doesn't make up for the lost space.

Zimunya · 19/09/2024 18:08

Hmmn. I don’t think you did anything wrong, OP - as other posters have amusingly pointed out, you could hardly leave your legs behind. He was definitely wrong to have a go at you, but I don’t agree that he was wrong to recline his seat. As long as a meal is not being served, passengers can recline their seats if they choose.

Ilovetowander · 19/09/2024 18:08

I sympathise but think people can recline their seat. I travelled long haul a 14 hour journey and what really caused me discomfort was sitting between two very overweight one was extremely overweight the other overworked people (I was in the middle of the two.) They both strayed into my space due to their size. I had never before thought about this issue but it has made me think now about how to avoid such a situation again. It was such an unpleasant journey

Just4thisthreadtoday · 19/09/2024 18:10

Phen0menon · 19/09/2024 17:54

Im confused as to how your knees were touching the seat when it reclined.

For clarity, i do also hate it when people recline on short/day flights.

However, the recline amount is tiny on aeroplane seating and its a rotation around a hinge at the base where your knees are. Almost all the loss of space to the person sat behind is higher up, where the top of the sat back moves. My DH manages to fit behind a reclined seat and he is 6ft 4.

Were you sat properly with the base of your spine against the seat back, or slumped down with your bum further forward in the seatt pushing your knees forward?

@Phen0menon

she can sit how the fuck she likes in her seat! She's under no obligation to sit as you describe so some one one else can recline more comfortably.

and the hard of thinking might engage brains & realise for another persons body clock it might not be 'daytime' depending if they've come off another flight from a different time zone!🙄🙄

@darksideofthemooncup

maybe be more considerate next time & pack your knees in your luggage. If you travel frequently maybe just get them
permanently removed!

He was an entitled, just be glad your IQ isn't as low as his & enjoy your evening!!

ttcat37 · 19/09/2024 18:12

YABU. The seats recline for a reason, if it’s too uncomfortable for you then you need to book exits seats or other extra legroom seats. My DH is very tall, normal seats not an option for him. I’m not sure how you’re struggling so much though as I’m over 5’8” and have plenty of room in the normal seats, seat reclined or not.

Whammyammy · 19/09/2024 18:12

Seat has a recline function so passengers can recline them. I don't give a monkeys aboutvthe person behind me thinks. The seats are for reclining.

GildedRage · 19/09/2024 18:12

air canada and west jet's reclining capabilities are limited to a couple inches at most, barely enough to shift the weight off your upper buttocks. so little that it's almost imperceivable when asked to place your seat in the upright position.

Georgyporky · 19/09/2024 18:12

Ilovetowander · 19/09/2024 18:08

I sympathise but think people can recline their seat. I travelled long haul a 14 hour journey and what really caused me discomfort was sitting between two very overweight one was extremely overweight the other overworked people (I was in the middle of the two.) They both strayed into my space due to their size. I had never before thought about this issue but it has made me think now about how to avoid such a situation again. It was such an unpleasant journey

I've been there, just tell them to stop touching you.
If they refuse, say it very loudly. Worked for me.

OptimismvsRealism · 19/09/2024 18:13

Reclining your seat is of no benefit to the recliner it's just psychological or possibly a power play on their part. Budget airlines that freeze the seats have the right idea.

darksideofthemooncup · 19/09/2024 18:15

ttcat37 · 19/09/2024 18:12

YABU. The seats recline for a reason, if it’s too uncomfortable for you then you need to book exits seats or other extra legroom seats. My DH is very tall, normal seats not an option for him. I’m not sure how you’re struggling so much though as I’m over 5’8” and have plenty of room in the normal seats, seat reclined or not.

As I've stated previously, he had the problem with me, not the other way round, I just think that just because you can doesn't mean you should and then to moan because you can feel the person behind you is bonkers!

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User1836484645R · 19/09/2024 18:16

My DH manages to fit behind a reclined seat and he is 6ft 4.

So is mine and he can’t. Some people have longer legs than other people of the same height. It costs us a fortune in extra legroom seats.

Zanatdy · 19/09/2024 18:17

I don’t know why so many recline, it’s so uncomfortable for the person behind, especially trying to eat meals etc. Maybe after service when the lights go out on a long haul but short haul it’s a dick move. Serves him right.

iNoticed · 19/09/2024 18:17

I’m in the controversial “if the shares recline then you can recline them” camp, but if you recline and have knees in your back then you just have to suck it up (or maybe not recline) and if he’s precious about it HE should’ve booked first class!

Birdsnesthead · 19/09/2024 18:17

AmandaHoldensLips · 19/09/2024 17:44

Unless it's a night flight, reclining a seat is a dick move.

Completely agree.