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To be disappointed about UK school reports

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Itisaniceday · 19/09/2024 11:48

Posting for traffic and advice.

DD is in year 9 and has an EHCP. I honestly can’t tell how she is doing at school. The reports are so general and the meetings with the teachers once a year are only 5min. Once a year meetings with SENCO to tick a box for the LA report and them to get the additional 10k they get for her.

Growing up in a different country we had reports every 3 months: 1 to 10 you were scored; also the place you were in in relation to your peers was given. If you didn’t pass the year you will repeat it.

Please explain the UK system to me. My concern is she will get to GCSE and they will tell me, sorry she didn’t pass; not place on the sixth form for her, etc.

I am happy she is ok to go to school everyday but I would like to know more reg her progress.

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Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 19/09/2024 21:31

Carrotmccarrotface · 19/09/2024 18:58

Hard disagree! If your child wants to be a vet or a doctor and you had had no indication of whether they were clever or not, how on earth would you guide them? Because we had NO meaningful feedback whatsoever until exam results day. Lots of pappy ‘somewhere within this three year window’ nonsense. What’s the point? What a waste of a teachers time. Whereas if you knew your child was in the top 10% you know their plans are realistic. Yet if you knew they were less academic, guiding them towards vet nursing / nursing would be a much better option.

Not being told this vital information is just letting our kids down.

So what would it term you if your kid was top 5% of the class, knowing the class may be particularly low ability in the context of the country? Does a performance in the top 10% in school guarantee being s very? I know people who didn't get excellent results in tests throughout school and managed very successful careers. People need to stop obsessing with the comparisons and "how high up the ladder my child is".

Jjiillkkf · 19/09/2024 21:39

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 19/09/2024 18:51

Sorry but there is nothing healthy about 'competition' among students, especially in times with a massive mental health crisis among young students. They know their grades and their friends' grades anyways. Compettitive kids will be so regardless if they know where they are placed among the group.
No one is telling kids not to bother- but that the results of others are not as important as them making progress at their own pace. It seems you are the competitive one and want your kids to race against other children.

Not remotely competitive, mine has left school with almost no qualifications.

Carrotmccarrotface · 19/09/2024 21:55

Tulipsareredvioletsarebue · 19/09/2024 21:31

So what would it term you if your kid was top 5% of the class, knowing the class may be particularly low ability in the context of the country? Does a performance in the top 10% in school guarantee being s very? I know people who didn't get excellent results in tests throughout school and managed very successful careers. People need to stop obsessing with the comparisons and "how high up the ladder my child is".

It’s not about me boasting about my child’s intelligence, but knowing what - of the range of careers my child might suggest - is best matched to their academic strengths. It’s basic parenting!

EndlessLight · 19/09/2024 22:05

Unless such reviews are in the EHCP, SENCOs don’t legally have to provide regular meetings/reviews beyond the AR.

Knowing where a pupil sits in relation to the class average doesn’t tell you what careers are potentially suitable. Being above average in the class may still mean a pupil receives below average GCSE results. And vice versa. The class average may not be representative of the national average.

Itisaniceday · 19/09/2024 22:08

Thanks. I have emailed the school and asked for a meeting with SENCO and Head of year. The report tells me nothing, I don’t want her to leave with no qualifications,

I don’t know if she is below, at or above expectations; what is the whole year average. I just feel the school doesn’t want to give much information.

I don’t know what her GCSE targets are. We are already paying a math tutor and may have to get an English and science one too. So 3 tutors for her to pass the exams

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HelloWorldItsNiceToMeetYou · 12/01/2025 17:16

Jjiillkkf · 19/09/2024 12:35

You're not being unreasonable at all.

All my emails to the school requesting to see my child's test results in relation to the class average went ignored.

This is not data which is collected (performance compared to classmates).
In England data is collected about how a child is performing against 'age related expectations' (so a notional national average). The judgements are 'working towards', 'working at' and 'working at greater depth'. If the judgement is working towards, they should be able to tell you what year group your child is working within the objectives of.

From year 10 it should be in the form of what GCSE grade they are working at now and aiming for.

In addition as your DC has an EHCP they will be monitoring progress against the EHCP outcomes.

Despite some claims to the contrary on here, schools in England have to collate extensive data about their pupils' progress. It's just a different focus to what you have experienced elsewhere.

If your emails are being ignored follow the school's complaints process as this is both wrong and unusual.

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