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To think it's odd to be paid more than your manager?

33 replies

KenAdams · 18/09/2024 23:06

Who happens to be the PM?

The BBC are reporting today that Sue Gray is paid more than Keir Starmer.

She's not even at the top of her band.

Surely the top of the band for civil servants should sit below the salary of the PM?

I wonder why she said no when she was told to reduce it by a few thousand because of the optics?

BBC News - Keir Starmer's top aide Sue Gray paid more than the PM
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cx247wkq137o

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BrokenSushiLook · 19/09/2024 10:30

The PM job is massively underpaid for the skillset and experience needed to do a good job. Anyone who has what it takes to be an effective and capable Prime Minister is certainly capable to earning 3 times that much in any other sector. However the low salary is accepted because the kudos of having been Prime Minister opens up opportunities fir enormous earnings after your 4-15 years in power are over.

Senior Civil Servants like Sue Gray don't have a generous gravy train to step onto after a few years in their post so they should be paid at their real market rate not an artificially reduced one.

Strobbery · 19/09/2024 10:52

I doubt this would even have been highlighted if the COS had been a man.

MereDintofPandiculation · 19/09/2024 16:34

Senior Civil Servants like Sue Gray don't have a generous gravy train to step onto after a few years in their post so they should be paid at their real market rate not an artificially reduced one.

Fair point, but it applies even more because Sue Gray is no longer a civil servant. Former civil servants shouldn't be expected to have their pay reduced because they used to be a civil servant.

caringcarer · 19/09/2024 16:35

luckylavender · 19/09/2024 10:19

@caringcarer - not defending Starmer but none of it is taxpayer's money (like Johnson's was or Sunak's furlough money to his wife's companies and the private helicopter). It's also not a 600k dodgy loan. Lord Ali is a very long standing Labour ally & this has never been a problem before. And I wouldn't mind betting that there are many many things that MPs don't disclose. But the right wing MSM media has a grudge.

I'm not saying it is just Starmer. No politicians should take money/goods because it can be construed as a bribe. Lord Ali has been given a Downing Street pass with no reason to have one. What else is he getting?

iwishihadknownmore · 19/09/2024 16:42

caringcarer · 19/09/2024 09:58

Yep 100k in freebies. Last year alone. I seem to remember he created hell because Boris got free wallpaper for number 10. Hypocrite.

Don't often agree with you but on this i do.

Its a bad look.

Functions/dinners/hotels in his role as PM fair enough but leisure stuff? no, it just sends all the wrong messages, i mean Taylor Swift???

btw its irrelevant if Sunak or Boris got x y or z, he said he would be a clean broom.

He just looks like Napoleon with his head in the trough.

Sue Gray earning more? thats a side issue, i expect most football players earn more than their managers.

RedRobyn2021 · 19/09/2024 16:47

A woman getting paid more than a man?

How novel

EverybodyWantsTo · 19/09/2024 16:53

WanOban · 18/09/2024 23:21

Yep this is true where I work. Lots of highly trained specialists are paid more than managers- and quite rightly too.

Really common in universities too.

toooldforbrat · 27/09/2024 16:34

I’ve just been sent on linked in a home office role paying £185k!

that’s more than the PM and Sue Gray - which newspaper do I send this to so they can froth about it!

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