To want to know where the children are? Content warning (added by MNHQ)

[lunar1]

All the coverage of the bbc paedophile focuses on him, which I understand to an extent.

I don't expect us to be told who the abused children are, of course not.

But do the police and social services know who they are? Have they been tracked down and appropriate arrests made? Have measures been taken to protect them?

I haven't seen anything about the children on the coverage, and a google search doesn't really come up with anything, it just all goes back to articles about him.

Do we even know if they have been identified and looked after? He's hardly even had a slap on the wrist for his crimes, yet the life sentence for the abused children is just beginning.

Please add trigger warning to threads like these.

I really don’t think you should be googling that - leave it to the authorities they will never put out anything about ongoing investigations.

I imagine the information given to the media is carefully thought out. Why do you need to know what's happened to the children? Is it not enough for you to assume the police are doing/have done what they can to locate and identify them

Simple - non of what you are describing above is published or reported on because there are legal restrictions in place to protect the children and their families. This includes action taken by social services etc. as this could also out the identity of the child or lead to wild speculation on line / incorrect naming etc. Any reporter / individual making any comment in the news / on social media which could in anyway identify the child / their family ( even indirectly) will be subject to legal action themselves including fines / jail.

Why on earth would you want to know that? There are whole teams in place internationally to identify these poor children, just take it as a given the victims interests are being looked after. One of the worst threads I've seen on here for a long time.

It's not enough to know the police are looking into it, no. And I was clear, I don't want specifics, but as a parent, yes I want to know that every effort has been made to identify and protect the victims.

Our legal system is appalling letting that monster go free. I want it clarified somewhere that every available resource is being used to protect the victims.

It is the job of the police and no one else to look after the victims identity and interests. It is certainly not your job!

I cannot imagine for the life of me why you expect this information to ever be made public. These poor families don’t need people gawping over them.

I wonder the same op. I read an in-depth article in the Sunday Times about the police who do that job and it ruins their mental health - it’s so traumatising. Unfortunately it’s hard to track the children as they are often not easily identifiable and many are from overseas and from secretive families.

Have you any idea how many images of CSA there are in circulation? How many people are charged in relation to such every year, in the UK and elsewhere? HE's crimes are a tiny fragment of a vast and terrible problem and in every case, it should be left to the professionals to deal with. We should concentrate efforts on making sure they have the resources to tackle it effectively.

You are not owed information about this situation just because it's high profile.

The majority of victims are never identified so your confidence that they are being taken care of is misplaced.

I agree OP, all the focus us on him rather than the harm caused by his behaviour.

I can't quite believe the outrage of posters who think this is an inappropriate question or the willful misunderstanding that you want details. It would be sufficient for the news to report that victims had been located and were being cared for.

It's not willful misunderstanding. There are international multi agency efforts towards identifying and supporting victims of CSA. That is all that is needed for us as laymen to know.

Children remain anonymous, even in court documents. The one thing that's been so upsetting for me personally, is knowing that everyone who knows me in real life has very likely done a cadaver search from Google to Ask Fucking Jeeves trying to find out about my daughter's abuse.

There was no press in the courtroom at the first hearing or at the sentencing, so only one local media outlet reported the crimes (based on whose account, I really don't know) and got it so wrong, which still upsets me. It was so inaccurate, the crimes were totally minimised and this just felt like even more justice slipping through my fingers. I'm digressing. But I am so relieved that my daughter was (and all child victims are) not named.

The right authorities will know who the children are and what support they will need. There's a whole support system that will have kicked in, OP.
To have the children's names and the details of their abuse would just be another layer of trauma. Believe me, there are so many layers, like even the one, as I mentioned, badly reported article minimising the abuse, which stated that my daughter's abuser did so on '5 occasions' which opened up such a can of worms. It was over a period of 5 years, it wasn't 5 occasions. It was so many occasions, my daughter couldn't count! But then, am I minimising? Even if it were just once, wouldn't that be a horror show in itself?
It's really mind-fucking, dealing with the aftermath of abuse as the victim and their parent. It's never-ending.

I don’t think op is asking for names and intimate details. But I do agree that a “…police are adding images to their evidence in attempting to track victims and bring more perpetrators to justice…” comment would reassure the public that the real victims in the story had not been forgotten.

The children are possibly not from the UK. Films of child (and animal abuse) are made all over the world and from what I've read the victims are very often orphans from poverty stricken countries and are trafficked. As such they are generally not reported missing or on anyone's radar. The internet has enabled and empowered those who make, distribute and view such content. I believe that international agencies work very hard together to try to identify everyone involved but sadly I would imagine it was a "needle in a haystack" task to find the victims.

Interpol/Europol will play a huge part in trying to locate traffickers, paedos, paedo rings, all that horrible stuff... and of course, the victims themselves ( outside of the UK).

You may not be interested in knowing more as is your right but it's not up to you to dictate what the rest of us need to know.

If vast amounts of resources are being being used to little effect then that needs to be addressed because it means thousands (probably millions) of children are being abused and not being identified and supported.

I'm not sure why anyone would think it's distasteful to ask about the support abused children receive.

Why would you assume that efforts aren't being made? Why do you think you need reassurance? This is so odd and prurient

Somebody quote where I said I wanted details of specific children? Are posters really saying that they don't worry about the children involved. They don't need to be identified by us, I made that clear, but the magnitude of crimes like this shouldn't be hidden.

I want some acknowledgment that the priority for everyone is the children, rather than the press asking the BBC if they'd ever have him back.

I'd also like to know that no public money is being spent to protect him to be honest.

Agree about a trigger warning.

I just want the law and sentencing guidelines changed, so that in future cases both those who supply and those who ask for such abuse end up in prison.

The truth is that in reality, that's none of your business. Nobody here is entitled to know the details of what you're demanding.

We know he's a piece of shit, and he's gotten off lightly. The only information we will get, is what the authorities are inclined to release. We are not entitled to anything.

You're asking for information that could identify them

If you want to do a little bit to combat the industry, have a look here

http://traffickcam.com/about

How?

Adding this one too

www.europol.europa.eu/stopchildabuse