To be absolutely sick of excuses being made for men's disgusting sexual behaviour? Trigfer warning. Hugh Edwards sentencing.

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Just read that Hugh Edwards ahs been given a suspended sentence.

And if course it's not his fault. He had a mean Daddy and some mental health issues and some bad things going on in his life, poor lamb.

All that made him say 'amazing' when sent photos of children as young as 7 being molested.

Having a rough time and a strict father doesn't make you a fucking paedophile!!!

Take responsibility for your predatory and vile behaviour!!

Whilst they’re in prison, of course it bloody stops!

If you have a suspended sentence, it becomes a prison sentence if you reoffend.

If convicted of subsequent offences, you're more likely to have a custodial sentence due to previous offences that received a suspended sentence.

There will have been victim statements in court.

Aye but maybe there’d be more of a deterrent so they might not do it in the first place. A suspended sentence is no deterrent at all.

I think they should have banned him for life from using the internet/social media too, but I'm not sure that's possible.

Yes, he absolutely CAN be banned from the internet !! It might be part of his conditions

Oh well that's ok then.

FFS the bar is getting lower by the day.

Exactly.

Absolutely not the space for oh no not my Nigel.

A suspended sentence is no deterrent at all

Ridiculous thing to say.

More fool his mother for having him there! If it's anythkng like around here them windows will be smashed in before you can say suspended sentence!

I think perhaps need to remove men from making the decisions on csa. As there just seems to lenient a system and perhaps collusion?

However the other person had also got suspended sentence.

Also --- build more prisons!

@Weiredeout

Why 'build more prisons'??

Who is going to staff them?? Nobody wants the job. Prison service is on its knees

Its gut wrenching, a world made for man - where these crimes are not taken seriously (but join a riot and straight to jail) . Abhorrent and I share your sentiments OP.

Don't forget the sob story about not getting into Oxford. I'm raging.

If that’s your interpretation, that’s for you to consider. I haven’t labelled any of your posts ‘nonsense’, even when I disagree with them, so it’s a shame you need to be discourteous to make your point. To address your final sentence, I work in the system and I hate what it’s become, but it’s easier to fix it from the inside than it is from outside.

With most female prison inmates jailed for non-violent offences, including non-payment of TV licences, it's time to release female prisoners and use the space for violent men.

You’re welcome to discuss it on MN - my original ask was for the PP to be less scathing about those of us who are sacrificing time with our family and in furthering our careers in order to help deliver justice, in particularly if they themselves are not willing to make that sacrifice.

It’s feasible I might hand down a suspended sentence in similar circumstances, and I don’t appreciate the implication that I should be investigated as a paedophile or paedophile sympathiser because of that. I’m actually a volunteer trying to do my best within the law and the guidance provided to me.

Standard then.

I know what my appropriate course of intervention would be- chemical castration and imprisonment.

Exactly. He's already been punished many times over and that will continue for the rest of his life. It's enough.

If someone uses ' I was abused when I was a child' as mitigation , is this actually verified or do they just take their word for it? Same as using mental health- do they look at medical records?

@WinterMorn I appreciate your posts

They are informative and measured. We do our best in the broken system

Funnily enough, nobody wants to join us as there are many many vacancies

Yep, despite repeated explanations on this thread some people do not seem to grasp the facts. They seem to confuse their own opinion with the law and sentencing guidelines.

Oh, if only you knew!!

I think that was tried and it failed

If that’s how it turns out, I hope those responsible are also put in front of a Court and suitably punished. Recent events have illustrated how dangerous and reckless the mob mentality is.

Gee you work in the system, you must be an absolute expert then. I’m sure you think you know it all, but try growing up with a father who abused you from the age of 3 (maybe even earlier for all I know). Now that gives you a real insight into these monsters. You might find you’d see the victims as the priority if it had happened to you, and would take these crimes far more seriously. I find those who work with nonces, to fall over themselves making excuses for them, they seem to forget all about the victims.

So you didn't say

Men, women, whatever! Anecdotally, I can tell you that an increasing number of women are now finding themselves in front of a Court for sexually motivated offending

Whilst not a direct defence, you've othered the situation by bringing in the classic "women do it too"

Women do, no one disputes that but at the same time you absolutely do not need to defend him by telling us this. This issue and the post is about a man.

Why do this happen on every post about men's crimes? Why do you think it was so important to tell us that women do it too?