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To ask which country you would not visit again and why?

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travelcat · 15/09/2024 19:58

I love hearing about travel experiences and am interested in knowing about places you have visited that you wouldn't go back to.

AIBU to ask which country you'd avoid in the future and what specifically made your experience less enjoyable? Was it due to culture, safety, or something else?

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ItGhoul · 16/09/2024 15:56

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GasPanic · 16/09/2024 15:57

Korea. Because I hate kimchee and they made me have a sit down meal on a wooden floor which almost crippled me.

JandLandG · 16/09/2024 16:00

Big thread and quite interesting; someone should go through and count up all the countries and form a league table!

Mind you, I expect that MumsNets in other nations would have Britain included by some travellers for various reasons...dunno: cost, roughness, transport, etc

This thread's a bit harsh on some places, but I suppose it is about personal experience.

For me - and ignoring personal observations - I'd say Russia bc people seem to be vulnerable to being locked up as prisoner-exchange fodder these days.

And generally, it's always been a shit hole with more than its fair share of ill-educated, violent, racist drunkards. (That bit is through personal experience, btw).

Bertgotkinky · 16/09/2024 16:02

DonnaBanana · 16/09/2024 15:23

You can keep your midgets, I was bitten all over my arms and legs and had to use aloe vera cream for weeks after getting back. We used to get them in England back in the 70s and 80s but for some reason not so much now they have all moved to Scotland

In all my lifetime I have never met a midget that bites. Where exactly was this horrible bitey midget? Was it a male or female midget. I have heard female midgets are more bitey than male midgets is it true

Loopylouie · 16/09/2024 16:03

I like Italy but didn’t enjoy Florence at all.

drspouse · 16/09/2024 16:07

Thebaguette · 16/09/2024 15:48

It all depends. In day to day life US has more equality than India. But when shit hits the fan and you need abortion, you may find India better. Not that an Indian single woman will be treated with genuine respect for being pregnant or having abortion.
There is still an expectation of women to live with in laws in today's day and age, but not of men. Of course, there are exceptions.

I think if you compare a poor, single teenager who is very scared to be pregnant and hasn't told her mum, her chances of getting an abortion are not much greater in India than in most US southern states.

Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 16:10

drspouse · 16/09/2024 16:07

I think if you compare a poor, single teenager who is very scared to be pregnant and hasn't told her mum, her chances of getting an abortion are not much greater in India than in most US southern states.

I am not comparing the two countries. Would be stupid to do so!..I just think some of this " I won't visit X country because it treats women badly" is more complicated than it appears at first sight.

honeyrider · 16/09/2024 16:10

DdraigGoch · 16/09/2024 13:58

That's useful to know, I'm only an hour from Holyhead and am entitled to free (well £5 port tax) foot passenger tickets. Wider list of destinations from Dublin than Manchester too.

I've gone a number of times out of Dublin or Shannon to the US and the American Immigration officers have been friendly enough and fine to talk to. None of them were rude and then being able to walk out the other side without having to queue for ages was great.

ExtraOnions · 16/09/2024 16:11

Egypt .. Alexandria in particular .. it was a shithole

DdraigGoch · 16/09/2024 16:13

sharpclawedkitten · 15/09/2024 21:44

And yet if the UK were the 51st state it would be the poorest! Shocking isn't it!

On what measure?

(GDP is not a measure of wealth by the way)

MaidOfSteel · 16/09/2024 16:14

I wouldn't go back to Southern California again. It's become a homeless camp and is looking very rundown.

sharpclawedkitten · 16/09/2024 16:15

Loopylouie · 16/09/2024 16:03

I like Italy but didn’t enjoy Florence at all.

Me neither. I don't know why. Maybe I'll go back one day and have a very different experience.

I wasn't too impressed with Prague the first time I went either, because it was a bank holiday weekend and massively crowded. I went back a few weeks later and it was a very different experience.

Agree the problem with going to Russia now would be the danger of being kidnapped as hostage fodder. I am fascinated by the Yakutz region (now there's somewhere that's cold) and would love to go. Anyway I don't think Brits could get visas for Russia very easily even before February 2022.

sharpclawedkitten · 16/09/2024 16:19

Purplebunnie · 16/09/2024 15:21

But according to Sharpclawedkitten I invited being attacked because I was speaking English in a Welsh pub

And yes I know it is different in South Wales, lovely place lovely people, spent a lot of time there. Just had the misfortune to venture into North Wales

That's not what I said and you weren't attacked for speaking English in a Welsh pub anyway because:

there are Welsh and other people living in North Wales who don't speak Welsh
there are non-English people who visit Wales and don't speak Welsh
it's an annoying and untrue trope anyway.

However, people who eg buy up second homes anywhere, not just in Wales, do for example attract negative attention. For good reason.

And if you go into a Welsh pub wearing an England rugby shirt I suspect you'll get some grief, even good natured.

thestudio · 16/09/2024 16:20

This has been interesting.

After entrenched misogyny or race supremacism, what disturbs me most is when you feel that there's an intrinsic culture of exploitation and cruelty. You'd think that would relate to poverty and/or equality gap but I don't think it always does. Some cultures just seem to have a more brutal attitude to their fellow humans. (IME it almost always goes along with cruelty to animals)

stuckdownahole · 16/09/2024 16:29

Loopylouie · 16/09/2024 16:03

I like Italy but didn’t enjoy Florence at all.

The first time I went to Florence was in February and it was not too cold, didn't rain, and was lovely and quiet. It was magical.

I went back at a more conventional tourist time of year, and as soon as I paused to look at the basilica, was hassled by a Roma beggar who would NOT go away. He was going to stand in front of me and hold his hand out until I gave him money or one of us died of old age. I wasn't going to hand over any cash because I could see several others in the vicinity and thought I would be swamped.

I've had similar experiences in Paris and this sort of thing would make even the most bleeding-heart liberal yearn for just a tiny bit of dictatorship, enough to make people stop provoking you when all you've done is stopped to look at the view.

Funkyslippers · 16/09/2024 16:30

Egypt. Horrible food poisoning and I hear it's quite common

Softlywoven · 16/09/2024 16:31

childfreebychoice · 16/09/2024 14:09

Why Vietnam out of interest? It is my absolute favourite country that I've visited.

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Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 16:31

This has also been quite a Western centric thread. Some cultures that people view as very cruel view British ways as very cruel.
For instance, many cultures think sending your elderly to homes or charging your children rent is far crueller than stray dogs on the street.

Twiglets1 · 16/09/2024 16:35

Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 16:31

This has also been quite a Western centric thread. Some cultures that people view as very cruel view British ways as very cruel.
For instance, many cultures think sending your elderly to homes or charging your children rent is far crueller than stray dogs on the street.

Of course it’s Western centric. Mumsnet is a UK site not for example a Chinese one

drspouse · 16/09/2024 16:40

honeyrider · 16/09/2024 16:10

I've gone a number of times out of Dublin or Shannon to the US and the American Immigration officers have been friendly enough and fine to talk to. None of them were rude and then being able to walk out the other side without having to queue for ages was great.

We have been to the US several times in our 20 years of marriage and usually go UK airport - Dublin - US and do immigration in Dublin on the way out. It is a lot easier!

Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 16:43

Twiglets1 · 16/09/2024 16:35

Of course it’s Western centric. Mumsnet is a UK site not for example a Chinese one

Yes, a UK site with people from many cultures.

Softlywoven · 16/09/2024 16:45

honeyrider · 16/09/2024 16:10

I've gone a number of times out of Dublin or Shannon to the US and the American Immigration officers have been friendly enough and fine to talk to. None of them were rude and then being able to walk out the other side without having to queue for ages was great.

Let’s not be thinking UK immigration officers are … nice. If you have UK passport … you don’t need to meet one or answer their questions.

phlebasconsidered · 16/09/2024 16:54

When I was young, free, single and fit, I cycled through many countries. I biked the whole of the Santiago Trail- no hassles from anyone.

Through Bosnia, Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia. At that point war was just over and I was treated absolutely respectfully and helpfully by everyone.i have a vivid recollection of being beeped at by a taxi driver and thought something might happen but he was only stopping to tell me the road maystill have mined areas- he insisted on driving me a safe way for free.

The whole length of Portugal- no cat calls. I was a fit 30 year old blond at this point. The frirndliest city ever in Lisbon. Barcelona- a few catcalls, but no harassment.

Prague- horribly verbally harassed, but only by Brits visiting. Likewise in Amsterdam. Felt mortified at their behaviour and was veryglad to see Amsterdam this year is clamping down on wacked out tourists.

Worst place was Dublin. Honestly worst service, dismissed as soon as your English accent was heard, expensive, miserable. Last thorn in the side was visiting a comedy club with Irish friends,who were then quite awkward as the comic did a routine about Brits. The hotel was shite, the supposedly good restaurants were shite, and the Guiness was expensive and not especially well served. I was gutted, as i'd planned the trip for over a year to take in Uni friends and relatives. I left Dublin early and went to see my nanna's sister in Cork instead. Which was bloody lovely. I guess it's the same as going to London. Which is also shit, expensive and rude. Even when you live there. It put me off though.

NonsuchCastle · 16/09/2024 16:55

travelcat · 16/09/2024 00:22

We had a similar experience in Wales - we were turned away from a restaurant, despite having a reservation, and it became clear it was because we were black.

Shit. That is shit. Do we have to get a Green Book now? So sorry that happened, travelcat.

Cattenberg · 16/09/2024 17:02

Lentilweaver · 16/09/2024 15:08

Well people complain about tummy bugs in India, Thailand, Malaysia, Cambodia, Vietnam,, Turkey...any country that is not European. Personally I dislike European food and only like spicy flavourful food, so sampling these cuisines is one of the reasons I travel. I also like street food far more than Michelin star and five stars.

Horses, courses etc. I am rarely ill perhaps because I eat that kind of food daily.

I don’t think it’s just that the food is spicier than many Brits are used to. Any visitor would be sensible to avoid a salad that’s been washed in the Nile or the Ganges.

I was lucky enough to avoid food poisoning in Morocco and India, partly because I stuck to an unhealthy diet with plenty of fried/boiled/processed food and little or no raw fruit or veg. No fresh juice or ice in drinks either.

When we were in Delhi, my DP and I found a nice, unassuming cafe with tasty food which was popular with local workers. We thought the stream of regulars boded well, and as we had a good experience there, we played safe and ate there every day until we moved on.

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