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Rottiee · 2024-09-14T19:40:15+00:00

I was raised in Scotland to a proudly Scottish family. I speak Scots Gaelic. Always thought I was 100% Scottish. Then I found out that 2/4 grandparents are adopted (yes what are the chances). I did a DNA kit to find out their origins. Turns out I’m 55% English, 40% Scottish, 5% Welsh. I can’t believe it. I’m a fraud - I’m English!

Anothernamechane · 14/09/2024 22:10

Gies peace. I'm also only about 40% Scottish and the same Irish although all 4 grandparents were born here. I've been to Ireland once, loved the place but I'm Scottish. I have far more olin common with someone raised here who is ethnically from elsewhere than I do with a "100% Scottish" American who's never been.

XDownwiththissortofthingX · 14/09/2024 22:10

ZanyPombear · 14/09/2024 22:09

I realise this isn’t quite what this thread is about and maybe it needs its own thread I don’t know but why is it that someone of indian or black origin can be born in the Uk and identify as British but you can’t be white and born in a black or Indian majority country and be considered the same ethnicity

"British" isn't an ethnicity.

There are plenty of white Indians, West Indians, Africans and so on.

Runningupthecurtains · 14/09/2024 22:11

ZanyPombear · 14/09/2024 22:09

I realise this isn’t quite what this thread is about and maybe it needs its own thread I don’t know but why is it that someone of indian or black origin can be born in the Uk and identify as British but you can’t be white and born in a black or Indian majority country and be considered the same ethnicity

You are mixing nationality and ethnicity.

Titsonboard · 14/09/2024 22:18

I consider myself Scottish having lived here for 50 yrs although I was born in England. Dad born in Scotland mum born in Wales 2 England born grandparents 1 Scotland born grandparent I Morthern Ireland born grandparent. My DH is Scotland born and we have 2 Scotland born children.
My sister lives in England my BIL is England born and their child is England born, same parents and grandparents she considers herself English.
Identifying as being English or Scottish is more about feelings than geography.

DoloresHargreeves · 14/09/2024 22:37

ZanyPombear · 14/09/2024 22:09

I realise this isn’t quite what this thread is about and maybe it needs its own thread I don’t know but why is it that someone of indian or black origin can be born in the Uk and identify as British but you can’t be white and born in a black or Indian majority country and be considered the same ethnicity

What an ignorant comment.

Nationality is different to ethnicity. "Indian" and "British" are nationalities, "black" and "white" are ethnicities.

If you are white and you are born and raised in Japan or Brazil or Kenya you will be a white Japanese / Brazilian / Kenyan person. If your mum is Asian and you're born in the UK, you're British.

DoloresHargreeves · 14/09/2024 22:38

Also OP this is very funny. If it's any consolation I would put to you that being adopted means that they are also Scottish, even though they're ethnically English.

maddening · 14/09/2024 23:14

You are Scottish by birth though - my Dad's side is from another country but I am British- English if being specific. But I am also "half" from my Dad's country of origin- even if both my parents were of foreign origin I would be British by virtue of being born here - not discounting my family heritage.

My Husband is Welsh as he was born there but his mum moved to Wales as a toddler and his dad was from just over the border in England.

Nationality is definitely an identity thing with many factors building in to an individual's identity including place of birth and family origin etc and even when a person moves from one country to another.

StoneofDestiny · 14/09/2024 23:17

You are a Scot! If you were born in Scotland, raised in Scotland, lived a long time in Scotland or just plain live in Scotland and identify as Scots - that's more than enough to call yourself a Scot. Crack on enjoying being a Scot. All are welcome.

User6874356 · 14/09/2024 23:23

ZanyPombear · 14/09/2024 22:09

I realise this isn’t quite what this thread is about and maybe it needs its own thread I don’t know but why is it that someone of indian or black origin can be born in the Uk and identify as British but you can’t be white and born in a black or Indian majority country and be considered the same ethnicity

I think that you should be considered the same but I know what you mean. I have a close friend whose parents and grandparents were brought up in South Africa as was he. Yet if I say he’s African, people baulk because he’s white. Yet if he was a black African born in England no one would have any issue saying he was English.

Berlinlover · 14/09/2024 23:35

@Rottiee What was the other 5%?

HerVagestyTheQueef · 14/09/2024 23:48

I’m Scottish!
But also 50% Slavic. And married to an Englishman who’s actually half Irish. And living in Wales.
I have ethnically Scottish, Polish, English and Irish children, but they call themselves Welsh.

Genes really don’t matter that much!

Skyrainlight · 15/09/2024 11:20

Why do you care? It's so unimportant.