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To cut ties with my mum

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CamFoz · 10/09/2024 21:34

A little background before I explain my current situation: I'm 31 years old and have been with my partner for
2 and a half years. We've just had a baby together and bought a house after renting. Up until I moved in with my partner, I lived with my parents as I was saving for a deposit. My mum is 75.

I believe my mum is a narcissist, or at least has a lot of narcissistic tendencies, as I don't like to throw that word around lightly. She never really wanted me to move out from the family home, who she lives in now just with my dad, i know this because we have had discussions in my early and mid twenties were she would get so angry with me if I said I wanted to eventually move out. She seemed to take it very personally.

Fast forward to when I met my current partner, I moved in with him fairly quickly, after about 2 months, however we are extremely good together and he's never had a red flag, he is the most supportive caring person. It was an easy decision, and 2 years later, I have no regrets. I think I also moved in with him so fast to escape my mum, although I wasn't aware of it at the time.

When I first went on a date with my partner and told my mum about it, bear in mind I was 29 at the time, she got mad at me - kept saying I was waxing on about him and how pathetic it was- I wasn't overly talking about him at all, I simply told her what he was like. But I did really like him and, of course, wanted to share that. My mum was obviously the wrong person to tell. She was also very angry about me moving out, I could understand her thinking it was pretty quick, but we had a huge arguement and she would refuse to come to my new place which I shared with my partner for a good few weeks after we moved in.

Since then, she seems to have it in for my partner. She never has a good word to say about him. He has tried to build a relationship with her, asked her to lunch, and made an effort to always be polite and make conversation. She will come to lunch and chat with him perfectly normally. But then she will slag him off constantly to me and my sister. She has no problem with my sister's boyfriend.

Her dislike and bitchyness has become really bad since I've had a baby (now 2 months old). She keeps insisting the baby looks like me, and he's more like our family than it is my partners. She made me feel like I was pathetic for letting his last name be after my partners. She even has given my partner evil looks when he has been holding and cooing with his son. So he feels incredibly uncomfortable around her. It's at the point where if I mention him to her, she'll say something negative. She came to mine the other day and referred to my partner not by his name but as my 'boyfriend', such as 'oh you went out with your boyfriend on Friday did you' (he wasn't there at the time). It is just constant and he has done nothing to provoke it. He works in the Navy, and the last few months she was asking when he is leaving to go on ship, continually. Now he is at sea, and it's like she thinks she'll have more access to her grandchild or more rights over him... idk.

My partner came home for the weekend last week and she was really annoyed by it, making snide comments, as if it would stop her from spending time with her grandchild (she has always been very welcome round ours, anytime, she just doesn't want my partner there it seems)

Besides all of this, when she isn't continually trying to demean him and our relationship, she and I have always been very close and got on very well. I hate a bad atmosphere, so I tend to let a lot slide. When I do call her out, she says I'm imagining it or she plays the victim.

Anyway, my partner has hinted about proposing (we have always talked about marriage happening), I am unsure when he will, but possibly in the next 2 years, if I could guess. I am just dreading telling her when he does, as she will have some backhanded comment to say, im sure. Even more worrying, I feel like I couldn't get romantic or soppy at our wedding, as she would roll her eyes and suggest I'm pathetic or making a fool of myself.

Does anyone else have a similar mother? Or advice? I feel like a lot of people might suggest I cut her off entirely. But that is not in my nature, plus she is getting older now. Also, when my partner is at sea, I don't have much other support other than my mum and sister.

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CamFoz · 11/09/2024 21:45

PadstowGirl · 11/09/2024 10:30

So you are going to cut ties with your family when you have a partner who is away for months at a time and you have no other support?
This sounds like such a knee jerk and immature reaction to me.

Maybe your mum sees things in him that you do not? TBH I find the "he's making hints that he might propose in 2 years" a bit odd. Does she maybe think that he is shy of commitment or stringing you along?
Re the throwing dirty glances at your partner? Did you witness this or did he report it? Are you absolutely sure that he isn't fuelling the situation with her?

If you can look at the situation objectively and say that honestly he is the man that you believe him to be and that it is entirely her behaviour that is out of order then you need to sit her down and confront her.
Discuss and work things out.
Don't just cut her out of your life without giving her a chance to change. To do so also denies your son a grandmother.

As a separate note, it sounds like you and your boy would really benefit from a larger support network. Do you have friends? Other mothers that you can bounce ideas off? Would you consider joining groups where you could meet people and build your support network, it's not healthy to be so dependent on your DM.
Also consider building your confidence and assertiveness so that you can confront issues rather than letting them fester until they explode.

Thanks for your reply! I didn't say I was going to cut ties, but considering it. Like I said in my OP, it's not in my nature to do so, so not so much knee jerk, but it's slowly become a possibly reality.

I've seen my mothers dirty glances, and it's definitely not him fueling it. Without a doubt, He is hurt by her behaviour.

I've discussed the matter with friends a few times to try and get an objective opinion. They all think it's her behaviour and can't find fault in my partner at all. They all really like him and are happy for me. So I do really think it's her behaviour.

Like i have mentioned, I have friends and my own interests. I don't think I implied a dependency on him 🤔 .

You are definitely right in that I need to build on being confident and assertive, but I really do hate confrontation. I know it's silly as I'm a grown women.

For example, I'm going to bring the baby and stay with my partner this weekend. My mum I'm sure will expect to see me on the weekend, and I am afraid to tell her I'm staying with my partner because of her reaction. She's going to make me feel bad and go on about it. She might even get nasty with insults. She will definitely be offish with me until probably the middle of next week because of it. It's very difficult to navigate.

I know I need to just get a backbone, it's just difficult to break the cycle when I've been brought up with this since childhood.

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CamFoz · 11/09/2024 21:54

MothralovesGojira · 11/09/2024 11:34

Please order and read Toxic Parents by Susan Forward - it's a life saver & an eye opener for those with toxic parents like your mother. There's a companion book by her called Toxic In-laws which your partner may want to read or you can read together.

Your mother is poisonous and you deserved better. Your father is her enabler and, while can't be completely condemned, he has also harmed you and your siblings by 'doing nothing' and has a supporting toxic parental position in this.
You are not responsible for her life, reactions and future. She likes it this way for her own reasons and is possibly the product of toxic parenting herself but don't ever allow this to make you feel sorry for her or your father. Parental toxicity feeds on each generation and needs each generation to use the toxic template to propagate it into the next one. It can be a never ending cycle until one generation stops it and says no more and I think that this is you.
You need to stop feeding her information on your day to day life. You need to limit contact with her for you and DC. You need to make sure that she doesn't then target your DC once she realises that you're withdrawing.
I could only stop the toxic parenting cycle by cutting all contact but I did give my mother chances to behave normally but she couldn't help herself and blew it every time.

Please at the very least read Toxic Parents because your mother will not be content until she's wrecked your relationship and you're back firmly under her roof and control.

Thank you for your post. It's an eye opener - as I always thought of my father as another victim, to an extent, but you are absolutely right in that he enabled her!

I will definitely be reading this book. Thank you for the suggestion. I'm sorry to hear you had to cut all contact with your mother, that must have been difficult. I really hope mine will stop this behaviour, otherwise I may have to do the same.

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CamFoz · 11/09/2024 22:04

Treacletoots · 11/09/2024 18:22

Its an interesting one this. I cut my mother off because she was horrible to me, but seemingly fine with everyone else.

She seems to be just very insecure and protective over you, but it's not acceptable to be like this so given that she seems to want to protect you, can you not make it absolutely clear her behaviour is unacceptable, that it's hurting you too?

Just a thought.

I'm unsure about her trying to protect me. Her dislike of partner seems rooted in that she has lost control of me. My sister for example has lived out of the family home since she was 18, now is in her 40s, and my mum has no problem with her partner. This is despite the fact my sisters partner ignores my sister for days on end, and gets in mood with her over the slightest thing, on a regular basis. He has proven to be a less than decent partner, but my mum has no problem with him. I just don't think she sees him as a threat to her, as my sister loosened those ties with my mum long ago. It's just, if she was a protective parent, she would have a problem with my sisters partner.

Well, this is how I see it anyway.

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