Lucy Letby’s scribbled notes

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At times when I’m feeling acutely distressed, it’s not at all unusual for me to scribble all sorts of dreadful thoughts down on paper eg die die die, hate hate hate, I hate you, I hate you, what’s the point of you, my fault, stupid me, etc etc etc, usually scribbling them all out so nobody can see what I’ve written. I’m pretty sure this is quite a common response to acute mental distress. I agree with this article that it feels very surprising that Letby’s scribblings were used as evidence of a ‘confession’.

www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/sep/03/i-am-evil-i-did-this-lucy-letbys-so-called-confessions-were-written-on-advice-of-counsellors

Yes, I've read hours-old babies on morphine can do that.

Given that this baby's SATs were already in the 80s and dropping, and that the ventilator alarm was mysteriously silent, and that an X-ray showed the tube was in place between Lucy's visits 1 and 2... I will never ever buy that she didn't murder at least some of these children.

The hospital was unsafe for the very premature with other health issues.
Very vulnerable babies were no longer sent to the Countess of Chester and therefore the stats dramatically improved.
The original pathologist was of the opinion that the deaths were attributable to natural causes.
It's appalling that the parents are suffering the uncertainty - similar to those affected by the Alder Hey scandal.

Shameful that posters (mostly women, I assume) are trying to paint 'the angelic' Lucy Letby as a (possible) victim through speculations before any innocence is proven.

She could be innocent. She could be guilty. But threads like this are horrible for the victims' family.

as someone who has ACTUALLY been tried(pfft)and convicted of "crime" i absolutely did not EVER commit, with what should have been GLARINGLY obvious false accusations from (massive history of dom abuse)ex prtner and his two (rotten to core )harpie(paid)witnesses,with no interview ever,no ask the "victim" ..just rapidly processed and left to live with wrongful outcome....I need you to know....
"beyond reasonable doubt" is variable
As yet,i still can not find just cause for that...BUT absolutely every day of our lives was horrifically dictated by no justice.no facts\actual evidence.or protocol procedures adhered to in determining that.
long with the absolute masses,despite this shite 1st hnd experience ..The narrative provided ,including her blank almost souless eyes stare absolutely led to conviction of guilt.
(I KNOW walking in room of "proffessionals"who already hung you, rest of it you just falling into darkness with no way out.
@Boymum888 if you read it--write it out apparently WAS suggested.therefore "i done nothing wrong"-may = i followed all procedures etc
presuming\assuming guilt for (ANOTHER)fatality im thinking potentially crosses mind of all\any high dependency /high fatality nurse\doctor(even just a wee bit?) also it s noted...there were numerous(wont lie claim i know how many)deaths on ward on her days off. The severity of illnesses of babes, undertrained/not fully competant staff..etc(stix in my throt cos think i remember consultants had suggested her nme previously/before arrest?)
IT is absolutely against the grain/abhorrent if you try to imagine backing\supporting a monster.
THATS WHY the law is ment to ensure "beyond reasonable doubt"-whilst evidence,etc thats now being presented appears to be ...very late to the table...the reality is...a fair trial,hearing with ALL evidence is her right.
despite my(no its not over yet)own experience of (no)justice. and the shite fear she did do it i guess..... there HAS to be at least an absolute thorough exploration of actual evidence and facts to deem her guilty. and that appears not to have happened.
Am doing it\saying it
WHAT IF....she didnt murder them,what if shes carrying the can for a shitshow of supposed "proffessionals"who collectively failed those families.
because THAT absolutely DOES happen.
i reserve the right to damn her to hell.

That’s not the case my dc regularly pulled out their feeding tubes by accident as just moving they’d accidentally grab them and pull them (32 weeks and 34 weeks ) and ds dislodged his nasal prongs all the time. Dd had cpap I think it was called and that was secured more.

Oh for Christ sake. Just stop with all these Lucy letby threads. She's guilty end of! There was so much heard in a long period of time. She was given an actual life sentence that not many people receive.
Funny how all the unexplained deaths stopped once she was removed from the hospital.
Why are you trying to excuse a baby killer.
Also I would also say writing those kinds of things down on paper isn't normal and would suggest seeking some professional help.

@PandaWorld"The babies were so small they were unlikely to survive anyway. A doctor/professor said this in the documentary."
The doctors at the hospital were surprised the babies died.
Generally, if the babies are stable, there would have been indications that they were deteriorating. Instead the babies died suddenly and inexplicably. The doctors raised the alarm, because it was unusual.
Like you, I was initially surprised by her arrest, but after following the case for many weeks, changed my mind. She falsified records, showed abnormal interest in the families concerned, checking them up on facebook long afterwards, etc.
I subsequenly came to the conclusion that we think the verdict is wrong because she is young and pretty.

I'll be honest, I think they've only uncovered a fraction of what she's done.

"They took babies like that before she started there, and there were nowhere near the level of deaths that happened after she started there"

Actually, according to Private Eye, there was a national uptick that year, Chester hospital wasn't in the top 10 of hospitals with an increase of infant deaths (it was about 12th nationwide ). Lots of other factors potentially involved.

She was detained since 2018 so they already had sufficient evidence to charge her then, let alone all the evidence that was subsequently collated and presented for the trial. All evidence is scrutinised by the defence if it has the ability to undermine her case. Her defence could have called expert witnesses but there were none who gave evidence in her favour. Why are people not making reasonble conclusions around this but instead jumping to the conclusion that she is innocent or that there has been a potential miscarriage of justice. Truly abhorrent and so awful for the families of those murdered and assaulted babies.

Why didn’t Letby give this as an explanation then, when asked why she was doing nothing? Why had she turned off the alarm when the baby obviously needed medical help?

That’s because they can have a slight drop in their vital stats for a number of reasons and recover quickly without becoming critical. The beeps are just alerting of a change but not immediate danger.

It’s very different from a baby with a dislodged breathing tube. Not assisting immediately in those cases it is indeed a very uncommon practice.

I don't know as I wasn't following the trail religiously. But I dud read she did a lot of overtime. Imagine if there was negligence due to staff shortages and you did overtime so more hours than most, you'd be there for a lot of deaths.

In my home town hospital lots of people die there before their time. Because its got a terrible rating. Go to any of the wards and you could say lots of people die on x shift. But those deaths, they never stood a chance. Your elderly, no one makes sure you drink or eat or take your drugs. No one washes you. Are the nurses on duty charged with manslaughter or is it just a shitty situation

She didn't even alert the Dr until he checked the screens and asked what was going on! I'm pretty sure she was hoping he'd leave without noticing and just assume she was monitoring a stable baby.

If a baby’s breathing tube is dislodged, that’s not the time to silence the alarms and wait for baby to self-correct.

She was left briefly in the room with a stable baby and the baby saturated in those brief moments. She turned off the alarms and stood by watching.

The other day I read on here that "Karen" is as bad as racial slurs.

Today I read more about this young white blond female murderer who I'm confident would not be discussed if she was black.

MN is wild.

They down graded the unit around the time they suspended her (before the investigation was done) probably because they were trying to do everything they could and had no answers yet ..... which is actually unfortunate because it obscures matters and gives another CT "opening" to these people.

But it still doesn't change the fact that that unit was that level/category before she qualified to work in it, and there was nowhere near the level of deaths. The consultants flagged them as unexpected and unexplained, because they were.

Trueeeee

Why so angry? Are people not allowed to discuss ongoing news items?

i saw on another thread that apparently there was another incident where she was accused of silencing an alarm but another nurse came forward and said it was actually the dr- he was then asked and said he didn’t remember ?

A lot of conjecture from people who didn't sit through the evidence.

For those who claim she's innocent, would you allow her to care for your new-born?

Infant deaths in hospitals increased markedly that year nationwide. Chester hospital wasn't in the top 10 worst increases (was about 12th). Stat from the private eye podcast.

Yep, a moment of grim comedy in the trial was when the prosecutor put to Letby that she remembered things that put her in a positive light really well and yet conveniently couldn’t remember things that showed her in a bad light.

Well, it's an unspeakably awful crime, murdering a baby, let alone multiple babies, as a nurse, whose job is to keep them alive. And it's also scary to think that someone might be able to do that under the noses of other professionals over a prolonged period of time. So I imagine lots of people would prefer it all to be a terrible mistake and for these poor babies to have died of natural causes.

No. Some of the babies were stable and for transfer. They weren’t all ill or unstable