To hunt down these bastards who exposed my son to chicken pox

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went on a caravan holiday last week for 5 nights and my son who is 11 played with some kids from other families and had a great time- all good

On the last night one of the smaller boys was running around with no shirt on and he has spots, one of the other families asked and his mum said oh he has chicken pox but we though getting away would do him good.

I told her my son had never had chicken pox and said I bloody hoped my son was not going to come down with them. One of the other parents also said they should not have brought the kid. Basically it ended up with them going inside the caravan in a huff. The next day we all left

So today the day before my son is use to start at high school he woke up covered in spots and now has chicken pox and won’t be in for his first week at high school. Tonight he is now crying saying he won’t name any friends now and he won’t know his way around and no amount of comforting will calm him down. Very few kids for his school are going to this high school and he is so upset he will have missed out on making friends.

We have been in touch with his form tutor who has been great and has said they will support him and catch him up but I could bloody scream. How can some people be so bloody selfish.

Nope. The paediatrician is right. Not prepared to repeat detailed information but if you scroll upthread I’ve posted on this and why vaccination should not be taken at face value.

Not sure where you are, but that's very odd.

I just googled at everywhere near me (london) is around £65 per dose or £135-150 for two.

https://www.boots.com/online/pharmacy-services/chickenpox-vaccination-service?srsltid=AfmBOopcoqdH5_qrDKjBYMFxCtmGzQqsKXuWx1vnDV-hL9S9MObwYovn

Yeah, no. I read it earlier. It's as accurate as your (provably false) pricing information.

Google will kick up about 50 results refuting your earlier assertions within about, oh, zero seconds.

No. The chickenpox vaccination doesn’t guarantee that a child won’t get the disease. If they do, the symptoms will be milder and there will be reduced incidence of it being passed on. But if the child actually gets a breakthrough infection the chances of it causing shingles in later life is the same.

So, it does seem to be the case that a person who is vaccinated against CP is also less likely to develop shingles later in life.

”This week, new evidence was published showing that children who receive the two recommended doses of the chickenpox vaccine are less likely to develop shingles later in life. This makes sense since these children are given the same immunity a natural infection would give, but they are given a weakened version of the varicella virus. That virus has almost no chance of surviving its encounter with a healthy immune system, so it does not cause disease, does not go dormant in nerves and it triggers enough of an immune response to protect children from infection for the future.”

https://historyofvaccines.org/blog/chickenpox-vaccine-and-shingles-risk

Below is a link to the published evidence.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/two-for-one-chickenpox-vaccine-lowers-shingles-risk-in-children/

So, if the weakened version of CP (contained in the vaccine) does not go dormant in the nerves, I presume that it cannot be reactivated in the nerves as Shingles.

Not always 100% though. It can happen, but less likely to happen.

I didn’t google. I have autoimmune disease (rheumatoid arthritis, spina bifida and now breast cancer) and despite all of these was refused the vaccine on the NHS because I was under 65 - wrongly as it turns out. When I enquired at my surgery they advised that the two part vaccination cost around £450 payable at the time the jabs were administered. All the information I’ve provided is as a result of my own personal experience, so think of it as false if you want, I don’t google for my replies - it’s lazy and inaccurate. Believe me or don’t - really don’t give a shit.

Would you like to edit your erroneous post about the cost @Rosscameasdoody?

Just saw your next post, I'm sorry for what you've been through (are going through) but whether your give a shit or not, your information is still incorrect, and could negatively influence other people looking for information.

Just did upthread one post.

Yes, just edited to reply

Not engaging with this any more. Posting from personal experience. If you don’t like it, that’s not my problem. If you prefer to rely on Google that’s up to you, but I’m posting from experience in the real world.

That's fine, you're absolutely not obligated to engage, but I do think it's really odd not to be able to just say, in the face of actual, you know, evidence, oops, things might have changed since I asked my gp (or something like that).

For anyone who gave up on this discussion, but is considering the vaccine, the cost is around £150 for both jabs, not £450.

Oh FFS ! Get over yourself , if he isn’t vaccinated then he will get it - guaranteed , the older someone is when they get it the worse it is. If this is all you have to worry about then it’s not so bad

The shingles vaccine is £450. The chicken pox vaccine is c.£150. They are two different things.

Oh what Selfish pigs, that’s really nasty,especially letting him run around with other children..🤦‍♀️
..hopefully you have had your son immunised ✔️

I was born in 1956 and if anybody in our street got a childhood disease ie. measles, chicken pox, mumps all the other children went to play with them hoping to catch it to make them immune. I can't understand why these diseases have suddenly become so dangerous.

Is there a chickenpox vaccine?

I wonder if people like you would speak to someone in real life like this. Like if your friend came to you upset their child had chicken pox and was upset about school would you say this to them? Genuinely would you? It’s just so disgusting and rude and the reason mumsnet has the reputation it has.

The OP has a poorly son who caught something off an irresponsible parent who allowed a contagious child to play with him. He’s missing an important first week of high school. It’s ok for them to be upset. Just because other people have worse problems doesn’t mean the OPs aren’t valid.

Have you not read any replies? 😵‍💫

They haven’t ‘suddenly become’ so serious 😵‍💫 They always were. My mum (born 1960) had at least a couple of friends who had long term problems from having mumps and measles. Why wouldn’t you avoid that if you could?

I do speak to people like this , especially people I know that need a healthy dose of reality

Sorry, but the hell has got £150 to pay for a vaccine for a disease that we know is catching and that you shouldn’t be sharing it around! And yes, I do remember the chicken pox parties of the 80’s…

Getting the vaccine doesn’t stop them catching chicken pox. My son had the vaccine when he was a younger. He caught chickenpox when he was 17. He was covered with spots, which have scarred. The only good thing about having the vaccine, it stopped him being ill with it.

It is really not standard in the UK - noone I know vaccinates their kids from chicken pox

Sometimes even having chicken pox doesn’t mean they won’t get it again. My twins had it at three and I was quite happy about getting it out the way then they caught it again one after the other over Christmas when they were seven.

There just aren’t any guarantees unfortunately just luck : genetics.