Why is 'Oasis warn against ticket resale' on BBC News, yet the Taliban banning women from TALKING outside, no?

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unless I've missed it?

BBC News, BBC Breakfast has had several segments dedicated to how to get Oasis tickets, on sale launched, warnings against resale.

In fact the BBC 1 current show has had at least 10 minutes dedicated to it right now.

Yet this absolute horror that women in Afghanistan are living, the erosion of their human rights, has not even attracted a minute of coverage?

www.theguardian.com/global-development/article/2024/aug/26/taliban-bar-on-afghan-women-speaking-in-public-un-afghanistan

Does anyone have insight into the reason for the press blackout - it is really just apathy or is there more to it?

And if like me, you care about this, is there anything that can be done to stand up for human rights here?

Sadly and depressingly- and the comments on this thread prove it-many women care more about Oasis than women's rights.

@Mynewsofa

Maybe - maybe I didn't word it quite right - I'm not super-savvy, I'm just trying to understand why something so awful hasn't been more main stream

Not true.

There isn't a quota of someone conciousness that has a binary of things they care about and things they don't, there's a huge spectrum in between and it varies depending on that persons life and what is happening right now in their immediate world and the wider world and what they can effectively do about whatever is being discussed.

I care far less about Oasis than I do about womens rights but it doesn't mean I'm also going to engage in online unproductive outrage about just one of the millions of things going on in the world that I care about, which on this thread is focused on the outrage against the BBC.

And i'm not going to engage in snark against other women that they just don't care as much as I do about x, y or z.

Setting up fallacious arguments like yours don't do anything helpful or productive and is just snarking on women that you think you're superior to.

An entire country of women being told they cannot speak outside their homes or be imprisoned or worse IS man bites dog. If it was an entire country of men it would be front page news everywhere. It's because it's women.

Really depressing OP.

Donate to Women for Afghan Women everyone!

Of course the Afghanistan situation is dreadful, but it has been reported and now something big in this country is being reported.
I think a better discussion would be what to do about the situation in Afghanistan?
Do we have the right to impose our beliefs on to them? Should the change be led by less extreme people of the same religious beliefs? Does the West have a right to police the world?
What would be suitable measures to take against the Taliban.

Do we have the right to impose our beliefs on to them?

Them the Taliban? Yes. Because they are imposing their misogyny on all the women without worry.

Sadly there are appallingly misogynist regimes in many countries.

Iran, Saudi, etc

What do you suggest we should do about it?

Because bbc is in Britain.
Oasis are British and concert in Britain.
Afghanistan is not

People can care about more than one thing at once. And the (awful) Afghanistan situation can't be top of the news cycle for weeks on end. It can't be forgotten, but like anything else, stories have to make way for new ones.

OP you know the phenomenons of newspaper revenues, popular culture, and the environment of late capitalism, have all been here a while!

Oasis is current ‘local’ news. The taliban is a news story from a few days ago, which realistically none of us can influence so there’s not much point having it front and centre. Harsh, but that’s the reality.

People in Britain are talking about Oasis and clicks equal revenue. It’s going to be like the Taylor Swift concerts with daily updates once the actual concerts play together with “interest” pieces like people cosplaying the band or businesses cashing in with merch. I don’t think it’s unreasonable for a British broadcaster to focus on what British people are interested in. I think that the BBC shouldn’t be funded by tv license anyway so focusing on raising revenue is a good thing.

In order for the Taliban to become top story, they need to do something surprising like lift restrictions for women. People know that they are about the subjugation of women so aren’t shocked that they are going increasingly more extreme. It’s also not surprising that the media aren’t asking wtaf the point of the war was and to re-examine the shot show of the withdrawal onwards. What lessons should have been learned? Considering a possible Trump presidency what similarities are we likely to see in Ukraine?

I think that most people are savvy enough to know that you can’t rely on one news source and that if you want to keep up with the news then you need to watch/read several sources. These days It’s definitely not unusual to look up a story after someone irl or on social media bring it up rather than read the newspapers or watch the news on tv at least once a day.

And interfering in the Middle East never works out well for us.

Where are you OP? are you doing something else rather than updating this thread?

So you don't really care about Afghan women since something else is distracting you away from this thread?

I obviously don't mean that but you see how silly it is to suggest someones focus, the UKs focus or the BBCs focus being on something else means they don't care?

Or maybe people and even News outlets have a myriad of things to think about. care about, talk about and publish?

And one doesn't cancel out any others?

Thanks for the comments, all.

I feel it's important to see this featured on BBC News as it's probably the most widely watched in the UK (I don't have metrics for that, just assuming).

Erosion of women's rights, world-wide, feels like an issue for us in the UK. I think I've seen the US abortion law changes featured on mainstream TV news, so why not this? This new horror in Afghanistan is something I think is very important to women everywhere, to emphasise just how precious - and potentially precarious - our rights are, and if we can help, even just with awareness, we should.

Just taking BBC Breakfast news, that must be, what, around15 hours a week of airtime? Surely there is opportunity to cover feel good news, local news AND examples like this?

Middle East? Central Asia surely @daliesque

I’m not really interested in trivial affairs in other countries so it seems fair enough. I don’t really care about traffic light timings in Paraguay or abortion rights in Hawaii either.

Trivial?

Yeah let's all hear more about all the murder and wars and throw some other atrocities in that other countries are doing to their people we don't want good or relevant to more of the British people so we all go 'aww how terrible' switch off we have done our bit now moving on

Let's suck all anything good in the news and throw it out the window

Maybe women are sick of other women complaining we are not being women right

As a citizen, voter and tax payer in the UK I believe it is my responsibility to do whatever I can to make life better for other women in the UK.

What I can do is limited because I am.just one person, but I hope that my contribution will add to that of many others, and we will gradually make progress.

I have no levers to influence what is happening in Afghanistan. I think the way women and girls are being treated is appalling, but given I have no influence over the situation, why would I want it to stay in the News for weeks on end?

Just as I have no influence over e.g. FGM in countries where that is practiced.

Thank you for proving my point.

Christ. No wonder women's rights are going backwards.

I think the way the Taliban operate is appalling, but the reality is that that is life in Afghanistan.

We can have an opinion on it that things should change, but it’s not up to us to enter other countries and dictate t them how they should live.

We wouldn’t welcome the Taliban coming into the uK and starting to demand that women stop being educated and working and talking, and as hard as it is that goes both ways.

Feeling one country has the right to enter another to force a culture/lifestyle has the ability to rapidly turn into a “be careful what you wish for” situation.