To put nursery off now

[pocketrockett]

Watching bbc breakfast and there was a segment about how they expect there to be a big surge of measles when the kids go back to school. Dd1 is due to start nursery in January, I also have another baby at home who hasn't yet had the mmr vaccine due to not being old enough. I'm terrified of her catching it and not having any protection ! Am I being stupid ?? Dd1 doesn't need to go to nursery yet, I was just doing it more for the social and development aspect (also giving me a little break) I was thinking shall I just wait until the next term and by that time dd2 will have some protection ?

The people who won't vaccinate are absolute morons. They are conspiracy nutjobs who think they are making some profound decision but really they are relying on herd immunity. The problem is that there are too many nutjobs now who are getting all their information and news from Facebook, so no herd immunity.

I would be concerned to OP but I don't think you can stop living life. I think all you can do is take all the precautions available to you and get on with it.

Start in Jan as planned. It’ll allow her to catch everything other than measles. Hopefully by the time you actually need nursery, she’ll be attending more consistently.

Definitely get dd2 a private early mmr now

On a practical side, nursery spaces are in high demand, so you may not have a place for her if you try to delay. The social benefits outweigh the fear here- none of my nieces, nephews or my kid have even encountered measles despite going through both school and nursery (all fully vaccinated).

Get your child vaccinated to schedule, and discuss your dears with your HV.

Except measles is infectious long before the rash appears and it can be diagnosed so PH getting involved (which in any case they are often reluctant to do) is far too late

I read that 1 dose is about 93% effective, 2 doses is about 97% effective. They used to only offer one dose as it works for most, but added in a second dose to improve protection.

NHS recommends MMR at 12m but sometimes earlier if there is a local outbreak or you have been exposed. If you did hear nursery had an outbreak, you could request it a bit early.

Too late by the time you know about an outbreak, but yes the vast majority get full protection from 1st dose.

There are no social benefits for children under 3 to attend nursery unless they are living in a deprived/poverty situation

.....in your opinion. Others would disagree

We had DD1 vaccinated early for her second round of MMR. Possibly for a similar reason but I'm struggling to remember why as she's nearly 14 now but I think she was starting school nursery at 3 [summer born] and there'd been a lot about anti vaxers in the media and sister was only a few months old. I remember that the nurse recommended it and said that there was no issues doing both MMR's relatively close together.

Chickenpox is the other one worth considering.

I dug out a scientific paper on a group of children in Finland

The primary dose induced 99.4% seroconversion for measles

Basically all the children were immune to measles after the first dose.

The second dose given for measles is to extend the time that the children are covered for into late adulthood

You know I really wasn't sure about sending dd1 to nursery just yet, I was having doubts as I'm going to miss her so much ! She is such hard work but the thought of her going to nursery every morning everyday of the week is killing me, she just seems so young still...
I also don't want her to feel like I'm sending her off and then keeping dd2 with me. And I know that's just me being ridiculous but I can't help it ! Mum guilt I suppose.

Maybe the Measles thing is a red herring (if I've used that saying right? 🤣)