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Abusive ex and child

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angrymum82 · 28/08/2024 15:30

NC as could be outing.

Will try and keep this as brief as possible.
My ex dh and I share a ds13. We split when he was 3. Ex could be very abusive towards me. Controlling, lied, took my money, we did have physical fights on occasion. He had a horrible temper which I suppose I ended up mirroring. It was very toxic.

Anyway as we've grown up things got better and we get on well overall. Both remarried, both have other dc. My ex has always been consistent with our son and 90% of the time they have a great relationship. They do a lot together, ex facilitates clubs and sports when I can't do it. Sees him weekly, pays his due and all is fine. People remark on what a good co parenting set up we now have.

But every now and then, maybe only once or twice a year there will be an incident where ex loses his temper with ds and treats him horrible. Verbally threatening, swears, has thrown things at him. Never anything physical but I know it terrifies ds. Because it happens so rarely and everything is good the rest of the time ds has never expressed a desire not to see him. And quite often I don't even find out about these things until a few weeks or so later when ds tells me. I've had it out with my ex, told him it's not acceptable and he agrees. But he can't keep a lid of his temper it seems.

Anyway the last time anything like this happened was probably about 2 years ago. They are on holiday at the moment and something has happened again. Ex suggesting ds has just been told off for his attitude. Ds saying there was a lot of threatening language, swearing and he wants to come home. For the first time he said he hates his dad and he's horrible, he's never said anything like this before.

They are approximately an 8 hour drive away (up in Scotland while we are midlands). I am livid. I hate the thought of ds being upset while away. I would happily go get him but I have a feeling by the time I got there it would have blown over as it usually does. I also want to really fucking lay into my ex but I don't want to do it while they are still away in case it makes things worse for ds.

I'm anxious and panicky thinking about ds being upset. They have now apparently gone out and he's said he'll try and make the best of it but he feels very awkward. It's so hard because ex is generally a good dad but his temper in these situations is completely unacceptable and borderline abusive. I don't know what to do or how to handle this.

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angrymum82 · 28/08/2024 15:56

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Wrapmelon · 28/08/2024 20:17

Did you speak to your son by phone or text message?
Perhaps your son could call you and you ask him to let you speak to his dad. To me that would be a pretty normal request and it allows you to confirm and discuss.
I dont think you have to go and pick him up, as you said it will probably have blown over before your arrival.
Best to sit this one out as difficult as that is and have a talk about it when your son is back home. Discuss that he Perhaps doesnt go on holiday with his dad anymore.
He is 13, he has a say in his situation.
Wishing you the best with this

angrymum82 · 28/08/2024 21:18

I rang his dad but he told me a much more watered down version than what ds said had happened. The way ds was messaging me was quite frantic as in 'please pick me up, please' but obviously it would have been a long journey and as predicted it did seem to settle down and blow over in the time it would have taken me to get there.

I'm still very unhappy about it though and will be speaking to ex when they get back. It's horrible knowing your dc is distressed and so far away.

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Wrapmelon · 28/08/2024 21:55

Yes it is. Most difficult
Are they due back soon?

angrymum82 · 28/08/2024 22:04

Saturday. So not too long.
I just don't understand how a parent can make their own child feel that way. I get that at 13 he is going to have attitude and be a pain at times, but never would I swear and intimidate him like that.
It's hard because the majority of the time things are ok but I know my ex has the potential to do these things so can never fully relax when he's in his care.
And I don't want my ds to suffer the same anxiety as I did when I was with him.

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Augustisnearlydonesogoodbyesun · 28/08/2024 22:07

My teens went nc with such a df about 14... After he supplied them with alcohol and and 1 of them needed his stomach pumped.. Exh asked the paramedic if HE could take his can in the ambulance..

Paperweight7 · 28/08/2024 22:49

Good lord, go get him!
Your poor DS is on his own with an abusive man and has asked you for help. It might 'blow over' but right now he needs to know you are there for him. He has been growing up around abuse and has simply got used to it most of the time. He might just end up thinking there is no point telling you about the abuse.

I can't believe your ex partner has thrown things at him in the past - he is a child! At that point the police should have been called and contact withheld until the abusive ex sought out professional help to deal with the rage.

Abusive people are horrible and manipulative to deal with but a child's safety and wellbeing trumps everything.

angrymum82 · 29/08/2024 07:44

Paperweight7 · 28/08/2024 22:49

Good lord, go get him!
Your poor DS is on his own with an abusive man and has asked you for help. It might 'blow over' but right now he needs to know you are there for him. He has been growing up around abuse and has simply got used to it most of the time. He might just end up thinking there is no point telling you about the abuse.

I can't believe your ex partner has thrown things at him in the past - he is a child! At that point the police should have been called and contact withheld until the abusive ex sought out professional help to deal with the rage.

Abusive people are horrible and manipulative to deal with but a child's safety and wellbeing trumps everything.

It's very easy to say this but in reality the odd incidents that have happened and the fact that he is consistently good the majority of the time are not going to cause concern for the police or children's services. Believe me
I hate it but the bar for parenting is so low in this country that it wouldn't even be on their radar.
He asked for help but it would have taken me at least 8 hours to get to him. And who knows if his dad would even have let me take him. Thankfully when I spoke to him last night it had calmed down and he said he was happy to stay until the end of the holiday but I am very upset about it all and will need to speak to him properly when he's back to see where we go from here.
I know my ex will sweep it under the carpet as he always does but that's not enough this time.

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