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To ask what you'll be doing to avoid the Labour tax hikes

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OptimismvsRealism · 27/08/2024 11:20

Pension contributions
Gift aid
Selling my shares now while CGT is relatively low

What really worries me is that all the professionals we actually need to want to be here will just fuck off elsewhere, though.

It's not like we're knee deep in hospital doctors.

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Pogpog21 · 27/08/2024 14:34

Paid as much as I could into my pension for this year and sold some shares. Most people I know with buy to let’s have been selling.

not much can be done about avoiding school fee increase or the increase to council tax/ house tax so I’m just trying to avoid reading the articles about it….

iwishihadknownmore · 27/08/2024 14:35

OptimismvsRealism · 27/08/2024 11:20

Pension contributions
Gift aid
Selling my shares now while CGT is relatively low

What really worries me is that all the professionals we actually need to want to be here will just fuck off elsewhere, though.

It's not like we're knee deep in hospital doctors.

Fantastic to have Ms Reeves on here in person and telling us all what taxes and changes she is going for in the budget next October.

No one knows what tax changes she will introduce.

But let the Tory scare stories go into overdrive.

Maybe ask why the country is in such a mess?

GuessingGownaGoGo · 27/08/2024 14:36

I'm a single mother, slightly better than average earner, I would happily pay slightly more if it builds more solid, effective and stable societal and services infrastructures.

user68712226 · 27/08/2024 14:37

Im actually thinking about NOT putting money into the pension since if they remove the 25% tax free sum then there is little advantage to me in pension saving.

They've said over and over they will not be penalising working people - it will be pensions, corporation tax and IHT

nearlylovemyusername · 27/08/2024 14:37

Alwaystired94 · 27/08/2024 12:20

Are you planning on contributing anything to this conversation or just question everyone?

It's a bit of a random question considering its not a set amount, everyone earns different amounts....

This is very relevant question.

It would be helpful if everyone saying they are happy to pay more would also say which amount. £5? £500? £15000?

The problem is that low-mid earners won't be affected much, but the higher ones will be hit with thousands. And there is always a line.

GoldOnyx · 27/08/2024 14:38

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 14:30

GCSE level at most lol

Doubt it! My OH worked in Austria for a few months and needed good German to get by.

EmeraldRoulette · 27/08/2024 14:39

HPFA · 27/08/2024 14:15

We were told that Labour were "caving in" to the Unions by giving doctors a pay rise.

So doctors weren't going to leave if we didn't give them a pay rise but they'll leave if they have to pay a little bit more tax?

If the cliff edge tax thing goes on, they’ll reduce their hours, the specialists who are earning that much

I have no skin in this game, won’t ever earn that much but find the cliff edge completely mad. So those highly skilled doctors reducing hours will mean increased waiting lists.

Smallsalt · 27/08/2024 14:40

Sunsgoingtokeepshining · 27/08/2024 14:27

Where do you live? Drumchapel is maybe cheap, but desirable areas in big cities is the same cost as any other UK city. And the extra income tax we pay is 4 x our total
council tax bill. And is all gets pissed up the wall.

I live in an expensive area by Scottish standards.
I could not buy a similar house in a comparable area of England.

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 14:40

GoldOnyx · 27/08/2024 14:38

Doubt it! My OH worked in Austria for a few months and needed good German to get by.

I’m not arguing with you about what would be advantageous, simply telling you the level he can speak it 😝. Pigeon German at best.

GoldOnyx · 27/08/2024 14:40

user68712226 · 27/08/2024 14:37

Im actually thinking about NOT putting money into the pension since if they remove the 25% tax free sum then there is little advantage to me in pension saving.

They've said over and over they will not be penalising working people - it will be pensions, corporation tax and IHT

Edited

Worth perhaps putting that money into an ISA instead, so that you still have some pension provision and you can also take it tax-free.

Sheelanogig · 27/08/2024 14:40

I think we will need to relook at our strategy for our company (employees 50 people) as I think businesses will be clobbered with taxes. Can see corporation tax hiking up vastly.

Means our staffing will have to reduce/lesser pay increases, less research and development.

Will be tougher (it's already really hard work).

GoldOnyx · 27/08/2024 14:41

EvangelicalAboutButteredToast · 27/08/2024 14:40

I’m not arguing with you about what would be advantageous, simply telling you the level he can speak it 😝. Pigeon German at best.

Ah right - oops sorry 😂😂 he might find it a bit difficult unfortunately, as I think he’d need a decent level of German to work there.

Alwaystired94 · 27/08/2024 14:43

nearlylovemyusername · 27/08/2024 14:37

This is very relevant question.

It would be helpful if everyone saying they are happy to pay more would also say which amount. £5? £500? £15000?

The problem is that low-mid earners won't be affected much, but the higher ones will be hit with thousands. And there is always a line.

But again, that information means nothing without the context. Cos someone paying an extra £50 vs someone elses £500....

BIossomtoes · 27/08/2024 14:44

Rigatone · 27/08/2024 11:20

I won't. I'll happily pay into a fairer society.

Me too. Decent public services mean far more to me than a few extra quid in my bank account.

GinnyPiggie · 27/08/2024 14:46

I think some changes are sensible e.g. passing on pensions tax-free is really just a benefit for the Very Loaded.

I currently put all my earnings over 50k into pension, but if there's a change so that this isn't so tax efficient, I might just reduce my work a bit. I don't mind paying extra tax, but I'm really trying to build up my pension as I'm self-employed and it's very small (and I'm in my fifties!). However, I don't desperately need to work as DH earns a lot, and I'm disabled, so I'm sacrificing quite a bit of my own energy right now just to build up my pension. I'm not sure it's really worth it anyway TBH but reducing the tax benefit will probably sway my decision-making a bit.

I do think that higher taxes are needed at this point and I'm happy to pay - but at the moment the additional work is taking a toll on me, so there comes a point where I will think that working less is more sensible.

Maddy70 · 27/08/2024 14:47

ChickenandaCanofCoke · 27/08/2024 11:55

"Nothing. I earn more and expect to pay more for a fairer, better society"

I thought you lived in Ibiza @Maddy70?

No i dont

Maddy70 · 27/08/2024 14:49

ChickenandaCanofCoke · 27/08/2024 11:55

"Nothing. I earn more and expect to pay more for a fairer, better society"

I thought you lived in Ibiza @Maddy70?

I live in Spain not ibiza but pay taxes in the UK as well as spain under the dual taxation as we have businesses there

GoldOnyx · 27/08/2024 14:50

BIossomtoes · 27/08/2024 14:44

Me too. Decent public services mean far more to me than a few extra quid in my bank account.

Good public services will probably mean we can actually save more in the long run, as we’ll be more supported by the public services.

KATHSTYLE · 27/08/2024 14:50

I'm hoping it won't affect us too much. I understand that they need more money to bring about the changes that we need to improve things. This country has gone to the dogs and it's so sad.

I think I feel it's a fair cop to tax inheritances a bit more than they are currently taxed. It's money that you haven't had until now and you shouldn't really bank on it. If you get a slightly lower percentage of what's been left to you that's not too terrible is it?

TheAlchemy · 27/08/2024 14:52

I won’t be avoiding them because I’m not a leech on society and happy to contribute more to create a better country for my children.

LaerealSilverhand · 27/08/2024 14:52

Nothing. Happy to pay more tax if it improves the country and society (which I think it will).

GinnyPiggie · 27/08/2024 14:54

Hawkerslife · 27/08/2024 13:41

Personally I think inheritance tax should take a hit. Many older individuals are sitting on hundreds of thousands of unearned wealth in property equity. Right now, me and my husband would stand to inherit around £600k if his parents passed. How is that fair? Controversially, I'd rather see this reduced than my taxes increased each month.

I earn circa 60k and still pay nursery fees so although I earn well I don't have a huge amount of disposable income.

Despite this I'm sure I'll be one of those in the middle that will see my taxes increase.

I totally agree with you, but it's so unpopular in this country. We are quite in love with the idea of inherited status, it seems to be a very English trait. It's why we love being bossed around my wealthy people, I guess.

MillyMollyMandHey · 27/08/2024 14:55

KATHSTYLE · 27/08/2024 14:50

I'm hoping it won't affect us too much. I understand that they need more money to bring about the changes that we need to improve things. This country has gone to the dogs and it's so sad.

I think I feel it's a fair cop to tax inheritances a bit more than they are currently taxed. It's money that you haven't had until now and you shouldn't really bank on it. If you get a slightly lower percentage of what's been left to you that's not too terrible is it?

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Cyclebabble · 27/08/2024 14:57

I will be looking at trusts to avoid IHT. Not much can be done on pensions, though I might contribute less. I do not mind paying a bit more tax, but overall I think I am paying enough and I have got back relatively little for what I have paid in. A little bit more tax is fine, but I suspect I will be paying substantially more.

Hawkerslife · 27/08/2024 14:58

GinnyPiggie · 27/08/2024 14:54

I totally agree with you, but it's so unpopular in this country. We are quite in love with the idea of inherited status, it seems to be a very English trait. It's why we love being bossed around my wealthy people, I guess.

I think reducing the inheritance tax threshold to anything over £250,000 being subject to 40% would be massive and would do a great deal of good in trying to redistribute some wealth.

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