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Race Baiting by Sky News

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ATenShun · 25/08/2024 21:19

https://news.sky.com/story/the-curious-tale-of-kamala-harris-and-the-irish-slave-owner-13201008

Bemused at this being a newsworthy story at all. Why would the locals in a small Irish town feel they have any connection to a would be president, who her Father claims is descended from a man born in the town circa 250 years prior.

Before all the claims of racial victimisation start. It is 250 years or 10 generations that have passed. I very much doubt that Ms Harris or any of us could name our Grannys maiden name. Never mind one two centuries prior.

The curious tale of Kamala Harris and the Irish slave owner

The US presidential candidate is believed to have links to a town in County Antrim but whereas transatlantic ties are normally a cause for celebration, in the town of Ballymoney there is a strange unwillingness to embrace its most famous daughter.

https://news.sky.com/story/the-curious-tale-of-kamala-harris-and-the-irish-slave-owner-13201008

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Abhannmor · 25/08/2024 21:24

Ballymoney, Loyalist stronghold with a sad history. Not the kind of Irish link - however tenuous - a would be Democratic Party president would be emphasising , surely.

ATenShun · 25/08/2024 21:31

I got the impression that the author of the report was suggesting the town was trying to hide the fact. I'd of thought most in the town neither knew nor cared about the connection. Likewise Ms Harris has probably never given the connection one thought.

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Abhannmor · 26/08/2024 07:43

Agreed. Besides which most of them will be fans of Donald Trump.

CoffeeCantata · 26/08/2024 10:15

Slightly off-topic but I get tired of the corny American obsession with claiming Irish ancestry, and then using it as a reason to be anti-British.

I know my history - don't worry. I understand that many Irish emigrants left due to the Famine and aspects of British oppression in the 19th century, but to keep this kind of anger going over 6 or more generations is not something to be admired.

The Kennedys were guilty of this and Joe Biden has always let it be known he's ill-disposed to the UK because of his Irish ancestry.

Horrible things happen in history - but there comes a time to let these things go: acknowledge them on both sides and move on to pastures new. I've got several Irish friends whom I absolutely love, and I really with that the Irish Republic and the UK could have a positive and happy relationship nowadays.

It can be done. Modern Germany has acknowledged its role as an aggressor in the 2 World Wars and no serious politician would dream of holding that against them today.

Hmmtheplant · 26/08/2024 15:59

CoffeeCantata · 26/08/2024 10:15

Slightly off-topic but I get tired of the corny American obsession with claiming Irish ancestry, and then using it as a reason to be anti-British.

I know my history - don't worry. I understand that many Irish emigrants left due to the Famine and aspects of British oppression in the 19th century, but to keep this kind of anger going over 6 or more generations is not something to be admired.

The Kennedys were guilty of this and Joe Biden has always let it be known he's ill-disposed to the UK because of his Irish ancestry.

Horrible things happen in history - but there comes a time to let these things go: acknowledge them on both sides and move on to pastures new. I've got several Irish friends whom I absolutely love, and I really with that the Irish Republic and the UK could have a positive and happy relationship nowadays.

It can be done. Modern Germany has acknowledged its role as an aggressor in the 2 World Wars and no serious politician would dream of holding that against them today.

I think the UK and Ireland do have good relations. I think it’s important not to forget history however. I also think the UK has not recognized its role as an aggressor quite to the same extent that Germany has. Also being an Irish-American culturally means something, it’s important to understand that until very recently, Catholic-descended Americans (incl. Americans of Irish heritage) did not have the same opportunities as other more privileged groups in America.

It‘s very fairly the historically oppressed group that states “there comes a time to let these things go” :)

Hmmtheplant · 26/08/2024 16:29

Hmmtheplant · 26/08/2024 15:59

I think the UK and Ireland do have good relations. I think it’s important not to forget history however. I also think the UK has not recognized its role as an aggressor quite to the same extent that Germany has. Also being an Irish-American culturally means something, it’s important to understand that until very recently, Catholic-descended Americans (incl. Americans of Irish heritage) did not have the same opportunities as other more privileged groups in America.

It‘s very fairly the historically oppressed group that states “there comes a time to let these things go” :)

fairly -> rarely :)

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