Two fatal dog attacks in 48 hours

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There have been two fatal dog attacks within 48 hours:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c80egr50vmmo

"Police are urgently hunting two dogs they believe were involved in killing a man found dead outside a home in Birmingham.

The man, aged 33, was found dead in the back garden of a home in Rubery on Wednesday.

Police said two dogs had been seized but they were hunting two more American bulldog types."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/clyn4yxm7jko

A man who tried to fight off an XL bully with a broom as it mauled his friend to death has said the dog "just turned on him".

David Daintree died after his pet attacked him at his home on Ashley Court in Accrington, Lancashire, at about 21:30 BST on Tuesday.

I think it's time for a cull of Bully XLs and similar breeds.

AIBU?

They are owned by wealthy people - drug dealers and gang leaders.

I’ve seen several examples of dogs in busy shops and cafes lunging towards or biting a person or another dog

Really? I live somewhere where lots of people have dogs, and in 30 years I've never seen a dog biting someone in a cafe. Are you sure you aren't catastrophising?

Sure but do you worry about them at 10am in the park?

No. I have never seen one.

I can't bear to look at that picture of the little girl with that animal. It could rip her apart.

How awful. Your little dogs are at risk because someone is so selfish.

Exactly. They must take some feeding.

You should read it.....it did.

Oh my god. I'm glad I was just scrolling down. 😢

My neighbour across from me.. has had a couple staying with her since March .
They have an XL bully.
It is muzzled when l see it.. but it still makes me anxious very much.
Especially when my Grandsons come to stay.
She also has a SEN daughter age 12 with mental age of 6.. l worry for her.
I also think she's sub letting .
We don't talk because she used to turn her car around in my drive and neatly ran over my sleeping old cat.
When there is a perfectly good turning point 5 yards away.

What a horrible neighbour, @PutOnYourRedShoesAndLetsDance - I'd be worried about her daughter and your grandsons as well.

Whilst I'm sympathetic to the family of the man killed by his dogs, two of which are on the loose, my sympathy for him is muted. At least - so far - no complete innocent has been injured, or killed by them.

I agree - certain dog breeds if in a home with dc need SS involvement on the basis that the dc are at risk of future harm

Maybe more people need to sue when they're bitten.

If an xl bully moved in next door, my house would be put up for sale immediately.

No wonder kids carry knives with the threat of XL bullies/types around.

I have a penknife with me for work at all times so I know what I'll be doing if me or my kith/kin get attacked.

Well the pro-bully lot are back in court next week trying to overturn the ban because the judge thought they had a case.

I can see the arguments for licensing breeders, but they risk promoting big concerns who churn puppies out, and penalising breeders who only occasionally have a litter because if you do it right it is a LOT of work, a LOT of money and a LOT of risk.

But since pretty much all our laws are rarely enforced it will be yet another tax on responsible people, whilst the scum carry on regardless.

I've spoken to a paediatrician & 2 plastic surgeons and they are very clear, those breeds under the pitbull phenotype cause far more damage than other dog types.

They are not safe pets, they shouldn't be in homes with vulnerable people & if we can't cull them at least ban them in public spaces. And laws need to be expanded to all bloodsport dogs. We don't need breeds that have been selectively bred to fight and kill. Just like we don't need flammable cladding on buildings, choose a safer alternative

I had hoped the cessation of breeding and use of leads and muzzles would be enough. I have met some XL bullies which seem calm and gentle.
The problem seems to be that many have a hair trigger but attack with no warning signs. To me , this means there is no way of predicting which dogs will attack or when they attack.
It’s well known that these attacks mostly lead to death (s) even if it is a fully grown man with a ‘weapon’.
I honestly don’t want to say it but I think euthanasia is probably the best thing all round. I blame the greedy, feckless breeders mostly and also dickhead owners who want a tough dog.

Since the 'muzzles in public places' legislation began most people seem to be getting killed in their own homes or by dogs who have run out of peoples front doors/escaped from gardens.

I do agree with a previous poster that the safeguarding of children in homes with XL bullies and similar 'types' is a huge issue.
Children don't have a choice in the matter do they.
I find it incredible that people would put their own children at risk by owning an XL and having it around the house and garden unmuzzled.
I guess some people really are telling the truth when they say they value dogs above humans. Their own children even.

also, we are all talking about ‘XL’ but we really mean to include all the other breeds that don’t necessarily fall in the legal definition, lots of breeds that have no business being family pets

Glad to see the yanbu is so high

I heard this earlier and it's utter madness. Society doesn't need to get to the point where a breed is so dangerous they need to be part of a hunt

That’s very scary and incredibly sad. As I read I thought I bet some people would aspire to and even pay extra for the status of owning a ‘Kimbo dog’

I think it’s because so many people got dogs during covid and businesses are struggling so they have no choice, they must be dog friendly.

The reality is that in most circumstances, a small knife would be useless. It’s been well documented that when an XL bully is in a kill frenzy, it will continue to attack and hold it’s prey even if it’s sustained multiple injuries itself. They literally will fight to the death.