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To have crippling guilt over chemical sunscreens

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nevertearusapart · 21/08/2024 23:36

I read this morning that the baby suncream that we used daily on my children for years had Octocrylene as an ingredient up until recently. An increasing amount of studies are showing that this degrades into a carcinogenic chemical (benzophenone) over time.

So basically I have been rubbing a cancer causing substance onto my babies every day for almost a decade. I haven’t stopped crying since reading it and feel like I’m loosing my mind. Am usually on top of what they’re eating, using, wearing etc and cannot believe I was so stupid to just trust a ‘natural’ baby brand. And there is nothing I can do about it.

Would really appreciate a handhold as I’m properly struggling and spiralling. Thanks.

OP posts:
PhoebeFeels · 22/08/2024 17:51

There is no evidence that the chemicals in the sunscreen cause anything harmful
BUT THERE IS TONS OF INFO ABOUT UNFILTERED SUNLIGHT CAUSING DAMAGE TO SKIN.
Some of the damage is not immediately cancerous but some is. So any sun screen is better than nothing.

Reugny · 22/08/2024 18:14

@emmypa There are lots of other common food items/ingredients if you look up what's in them when they are stored and/or processed you would feel quite queasy. However the vast majority of the UK and European populations who consume these products daily/regularly are not ill.

(I've deliberately not said what the food items are.)

In regards to sunscreen it is apparently cheaper in the UK than in lots of other countries particularly due to the German supermarkets. There is a campaign to remove VAT from it by some of those who have had skin cancer and survived, but there are arguments that it wouldn't reduce the price.

NoKnit · 22/08/2024 19:26

Reugny · 22/08/2024 18:14

@emmypa There are lots of other common food items/ingredients if you look up what's in them when they are stored and/or processed you would feel quite queasy. However the vast majority of the UK and European populations who consume these products daily/regularly are not ill.

(I've deliberately not said what the food items are.)

In regards to sunscreen it is apparently cheaper in the UK than in lots of other countries particularly due to the German supermarkets. There is a campaign to remove VAT from it by some of those who have had skin cancer and survived, but there are arguments that it wouldn't reduce the price.

Suncream is cheaper in the UK because of German supermarkets? I'm not following that one. I think suncream in Germany and UK is of a comparable price depending on the brand. I've never noticed a big difference

caramac04 · 22/08/2024 19:30

NTRFT but agree with op’s that your anxiety level seems disproportionate to any possible risk.
What would the risk have been if you had never applied sunscreen? Your children may well have burned.
By applying sunscreen you did exactly what a responsible parent should do and you are one of millions.

Eastcoastie · 22/08/2024 23:29

Beth216 · 22/08/2024 11:52

Everything gives you cancer, literally!

Got a new car? - A 2023 study by the Beijing Institute of Technology found that the chemicals that cause the "new car smell" could be carcinogenic and increase the risk of cancer for drivers and passengers.

Got a sofa? - Sofas can contain toxic chemicals that may be linked to cancer, and these chemicals can be absorbed through the skin and lungs.

Sleep on a mattress? - Mattresses can pose a cancer risk because they often contain volatile organic compounds (VOCs) that are known carcinogens.

Eat any kind of processed food? - Researchers from Imperial’s School of Public Health have produced the most comprehensive assessment to date of the association between ultra-processed foods and the risk of developing cancers. Ultra-processed foods are food items which have been heavily processed during their production, such as fizzy drinks, mass-produced packaged breads, many ready meals and most breakfast cereals.

Wear make up? - Some makeup ingredients may be linked to cancer, including asbestos, crystalline silica, and endocrine-disrupting chemicals:
Asbestos
Talc-based makeup that contains asbestos may expose users to asbestos, which can lead to lung cancer or mesothelioma. In 2019, the FDA found asbestos in almost 20% of 52 cosmetic samples, and in 2020, the Environmental Working Group found asbestos in three of 21 samples.
Crystalline silica
This airborne contaminant is used in many cosmetics, including lipsticks, eye shadows, and foundations. It can be inhaled into the lungs, or it can come into contact with the eyes and skin. The NTP and IARC both list crystalline silica as a known human carcinogen.
Endocrine-disrupting chemicals
Cosmetics, lotions, and fragrances may contain chemicals like phthalates, parabens, and phenols, which could increase the risk of breast cancer.

Use talc? - The International Agency for Research on Cancer (IARC), part of the World Health Organization (WHO), classifies talc as "probably carcinogenic to humans".

Use dry shampoo? - In October 2022, Unilever voluntarily recalled 19 dry shampoo products due to benzene contamination, a known carcinogen. The recall included brands like Dove, Tresemmé, Bed Head,

The idea that just because something is sold in the UK means it must be 100% safe is just nonsense. I'd been using a kids shampoo for years along with my kids, DGJ watermelon kids shampoo, it was the only thing that worked for my hair but them suddenly it just completely disappeared and I couldn't find any information as to why. I looked up the ingredients to try and find another shampoo with similar ingredients and it turned out one of the ingredients had been found to be carcinogenic and been banned.

When it comes to sun cream I recommend using the Green people one OP. Lots of nasty chemicals in a lot of them, but really nothing is ever 100%, there's always more that research could find out but that isn't known right now.

Do you use the kids green people one or the mineral? Iv been using the kids but wondering whether i should move to the mineral

TealPoet · 24/08/2024 14:24

Bobbotgegrinch · 22/08/2024 00:35

Every single parent since the beginning of time gives their child something that turns out to be bad for them.

In recent generations, we have toys with lead based paint, thalidomide, ultra processed foods.

We do the best we can with the knowledge we have. And when we learn that something is unsafe, we stop using it. That's all we can possibly do.

This is such a helpful, grounded post. Yes pp are right, the levels of chemicals are almost certainly not harmful anyway. But at some point it will turn out that something we’ve been using actually is harmful. And we didn’t know. So we have to change behaviour then but that’s not a reason to panic now.

nevertearusapart · 24/08/2024 14:29

@TealPoet you’re so right, I went down a rabbit hole of looking at everything we use - mattress protectors, saucepans, lunchboxes etc - and just had to stop as it's overwhelming. Could count on one hand what’s considered 100% safe!

OP posts:
wombat1a · 24/08/2024 15:21

You said "An increasing amount of studies are showing that this degrades into a carcinogenic chemical (benzophenone) over time."

Well I seriously doubt each application of suncream was left on your children long enought to degrade. Even a bottle of the stuff left for a year would probably not have enough degraded chemical in it to be an issue. Loads of things are carinogenic, most of them are not in the levels you encounter daily.

Melania90 · 24/08/2024 15:23

nevertearusapart · 22/08/2024 00:11

@KreedKafer no history of anxiety or OCD ever, am very laid back. Looks like I might be totally off here though so thanks for posting as I wouldn’t have realised it.

Edited

There’s no evidence that sunscreen causes cancer. Do you know what is proven to cause cancer though? Sun exposure. Chill out.

RedHelenB · 24/08/2024 15:25

Seriously crying over this OP? You need to get a grip

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