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U3A - is it “full of middle-class snobby, cliquey women”?

94 replies

Ilovecleaning · 21/08/2024 06:47

I am thinking of joining University of the Third Age. Any members, past or present, out there who think this description is reasonable or unreasonable? Any opinions would be appreciated. Thanks.

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deepstarfish · 21/08/2024 13:40

According to the local group you have to be fully retired (doing no paid work at all) and have no caring responsibilities for children so inevitably it's going to be middle class and get more so with time now statutory retirement age is going higher and higher. Its sounds like there is quite a lot of variation between groups though so probably best to just get in touch with them and see what you think.

dajen · 21/08/2024 13:57

I’m sure the comment about no caring responsibility for children is aimed at parents rather than grandparents as I and many other members I know all help look after grandchildren at various times.

Ilovecleaning · 21/08/2024 14:05

Jaboody · 21/08/2024 08:18

Would they allow a 40 year old to join?

lol 😊. I don’t know but I’m sure you would bring down the average age 🌺

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Ilovecleaning · 21/08/2024 14:07

Butwhybecause · 21/08/2024 08:44

The U3A in my area is a mix of men and women.
I belong to a craft group and yes, that is all women, they're kind and helpful and I never even thought about what 'class' they might be.

History group is an equal mix of men and women as are many other groups.

I did notice there are quite a lot of ex-teachers who join or are convenors of groups so perhaps their previous experience gives them the expertise to organise groups of unruly retired people. 😃

Thank you, @Butwhybecause

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Ilovecleaning · 21/08/2024 14:10

KimberleyClark · 21/08/2024 09:24

I originally misread U3A as USA.

🤣

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Mischance · 21/08/2024 14:19

I belong to the Monmouth branch - it is a small town in Wales. We have just topped 700 members! Basically because of the enthusiasm of the members.

Every U3A and activity group will be different - there will be kind people, outgoing people, introverts, snobs etc. - just like any other group. I can only say that I have received nothing but kindness, especially as a widow attending on my own.

NoExpectationsAtAll · 21/08/2024 14:22

I belong to the Cambridge group, U3AC, which is independent of other U3As so I don't know if my experience is typical.

We pay one subscription for the year. The only extra charge is if there's a paid tutor but most are volunteers. After an accident I'm having a year out, but before that I did three different exercise classes (taught by other U3A members who all had been dance teachers) and two craft ones each week. Most people doing those courses were women. In previous years I did a Statistics one, where there were three women and about 12 men. I understand the people who go to some of the world affairs/business/economics groups are mostly men, too.

To join the Cambridge group you have to be over 55 and not working full-time, I believe. Probably most people are middle class. Lots of people look after a grandchild occasionally and attendance is definitely lower during half-terms.

Ilovecleaning · 21/08/2024 14:23

Lots more helpful information. Thank you. I have been through the responses and clicked ‘thanks’ to the helpful ones. Loads of those. 🙏
I haven’t responded to the daft responses from those who think the quotation in the title is actually mine. It was in an old, and perhaps outdated thread which I saw when I Googled U3A. Or those who have their own agenda Or even those who suggest I ‘give it a try’ - why do they think I’m asking for opinions and information?
Still, that’s Mumsnet for you.
I like MN because you get some interesting viewpoints. But there are some who would post the most ridiculous responses if you were asking how much sugar you take in your tea.

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OpizpuHeuvHiyo · 21/08/2024 14:26

I do know a retired couple who are very involved in U3A. They do emit a bit of a vibe of "posh", having been brought up speaking RP English and dressing smartly, but they aren't remotely snobby and are really interested in getting to know people from all walks of life, and are totally non judgemental and accepting so the total opposite of cliquey.

Baleful · 21/08/2024 14:48

Ilovecleaning · 21/08/2024 14:23

Lots more helpful information. Thank you. I have been through the responses and clicked ‘thanks’ to the helpful ones. Loads of those. 🙏
I haven’t responded to the daft responses from those who think the quotation in the title is actually mine. It was in an old, and perhaps outdated thread which I saw when I Googled U3A. Or those who have their own agenda Or even those who suggest I ‘give it a try’ - why do they think I’m asking for opinions and information?
Still, that’s Mumsnet for you.
I like MN because you get some interesting viewpoints. But there are some who would post the most ridiculous responses if you were asking how much sugar you take in your tea.

But you used those words. Yes, you put them in quotation marks, but you didn’t indicate whether this is something someone with experience of U3A told you, something you saw online, something you’ve observed yourself, a widespread prejudice about the U3A etc.

I don’t think anyone was necessarily ‘daft’ to think it was an opinion you credited.

I mean, it would have been perfectly possible to start a thread saying ‘Anyone currently doing a U3A group?’ Or ‘In your experience of U3A, what were the other people like?’

Instead you used a hostile generalisation in your thread title, and, unsurprisingly, some people reacted negatively to it.

Hhippo · 18/12/2024 21:16

Ive been a member of U3A for 3 years and can say the membership is not entirely middle class, although the committee do seem to be. Its very cheap to join (£12 annual membership) so many poorer people, particularly women join. They do offer a lot of things: two free lectures a month, many groups with a small weekly fee, monthly trips for around £25-30 a time and so on. However its mainly older women who join, aged 70-80. Very few single guys and some couples. I get the feeling most women are lonely and this is a way to make friends. You need to be selective in what you join in, not everything is for me, but some of the talks are interesting and maybe one or two of the trips each year are. Ive learned some interesting things from women in the groups, especially if you do crafts and want advice from more experienced people.

00BonneMaman00 · 18/12/2024 23:25

LunaTheCat · 21/08/2024 07:46

God I am 60 and I can’t wait to join!

I think you can join at any age. It's just intended for post work/parenting

00BonneMaman00 · 18/12/2024 23:26

Ilovecleaning · 21/08/2024 08:14

Many thanks for all your helpful comments (the usual couple of nobhead Mumsnet replies, but that’s to be expected 🙄).
It has been good to get opinions from actual members or those of you whose parents or in-laws who enjoy U3A.
I have signed up for the newsletter and I shall take it from there.
Thank you again, everyone.

Why so rude?

TheLette · 18/12/2024 23:37

My parents do it. My dad teaches a class there and it sounds like people are a mixed bag, but his area is solidly middle class and affluent so I expect most people are middle class. Everyone is welcome though and it sounds like the activities are designed to be affordable. My mum did a class involving a volunteer teacher (I think in her 90s) who was lovely but I think my mum needed a bit more of a challenge in the particular subject. I guess it depends on what you want to learn and how; presumably unless you are lucky the classes taught by volunteers won't be as good as classes you can pay for elsewhere.

bluesatin · 19/12/2024 00:45

What happens depends on the area you live in. This is ours- covers a rural area about 10 miles in radius.

Monday (am) - Speak Shakespeare (week) |Gardening (3rd) | German 2 (week) | Italian Improvers (week) | Painting Self Help (2nd) |Table Tennis (week) | Walking (week) \
Monday (pm) - Creative Memoir (alt) | Spanish Improvers (alt)| Spanish - Intermediate (alt) | Fiction Writing (alt) | Music Appreciation (2nd&4th)
Debating (2nd)

Tuesday (am) - Art Appreciation (1st&3rd) | Cycling for Fitness & Fun (week) | Cycling for Softies (alt) | Cycling Intermediate (week) | German 1 (week) | Bridge Club (week) | Latin Beginners (week)

Tuesday (pm) - Mah Jong (for)

Wednesday (am) - Classic Writers Book Group (last) | French Intermediate (week) | | QiGong (week) | Science & Technology (3rd) Play Writing (alt Wed)
Wednesday (pm) - Genealogy (3rd) | Music Appreciation (2nd&4th) | Singing (1st&3rd). | Pickleball (week)

Thursday (am) - Book Group 1 (3rd) | Book Group 3 (2nd) | Book Group 4 (2nd) | eCycling (week) | Latin Improvers (week) | MEETING POINTS (last) | Classical Music (3rd) | Nature Walks (2nd) | Photography (1st?) | Patchwork & Quilting (1st&3rd) | Crib/Games (1st&3rd) |
Thursday (pm) - Astronomy (week) | Short Tennis (1st&3rd) | Ukulele (week) | Beginner French. (Week)

Friday (am) - Archaeology (4th) | Bridge For Fun (week) | (2nd) | Genealogy | Nordic Walking (fort) |Cycling Non E bike (week) | Boule (week)
Friday (pm) - French Conversation (week) | Guitar Group (1st&3rd).

featheredheart · 07/03/2025 17:14

I searched online about whether U3A was unfriendly and found this thread, and I wanted to share my experience—not to complain, but because I think it’s important to talk about access and inclusion.

I emailed asking if my mum and me could join U3A here in central Scotland, explaining that she has Alzheimer’s but is very active and that I’m her carer. I'm just about entry age for U3A anyway and have a lot to offer. We didn’t get a reply, so we joined online anyway—I was thinking afterwards why should I have to justify her participation when all the recommendations for dementia are to stay active and engaged?

After a while, I received an email from the membership secretary apologising for the delay—there had been family issues. No problem with that. I was sympathetic.

But in this "welcome" email, I was warned not to leave Mum unattended and told that no one would take responsibility for her. I had never asked anyone to. It felt unnecessary and unwelcoming. Welcome - on condition. Ironically, carers should probably get free access to these events, but I paid without question to avoid any issues.

In the meantime, I had also reached out politely to multiple group leaders. You can't just turn up. While half of them replied and accepted us, the other half didn’t even acknowledge my emails, calls, or messages.

I was left wondering, had word spread among the leaders that someone with Alzheimer's & a carer wanted to join. Had an email even been sent out to them telling them they were under no obligation to take us? Were we being quietly frozen out? I couldn't find another reason for so many people, at least 6, not to reply.

Whatever the reason the lack of basic courtesy was shocking. A simple “sorry the group is full” would have been far better than silence.

I’m left feeling demoralised and put off from applying to more groups. And I can't say that I could, nor have I been wholeheartedly recommending U3A to people. I would say that if you can get past the gatekeepers, there are potentially a lot of activities you could join for a very cheap annual membership. But our experience is that it seems to be as much about keeping people out as it is welcoming people in.

Dementia is now the biggest killer in the UK. Nearly everyone knows someone affected by it, whether personally, through family, or friends. U3A is supposed to be about lifelong learning. If anything, it should be at the forefront of inclusion, ensuring that people with dementia (and their carers) can stay engaged for as long as possible.

I am left wondering what U3A’s position is on this? And what steps are they taking to ensure their groups don’t just cater to the privileged and cognitively able, but also to those who need support to keep participating
in life?

Redpeach · 07/03/2025 17:24

00BonneMaman00 · 18/12/2024 23:26

Why so rude?

Yes i thought the same, and surely it's 'knob head'

Mischance · 07/03/2025 17:29

My local branch does their best to accommodate everyone. On the classical concert trips group that I run for them, there is someone whose cognitive abilities are waning - we all help him. He loves the concerts.

Isis1981uk · 07/03/2025 17:52

My mum does this, and she's lovely!

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