Would you apply for a job that pays £30k more than you earn now?

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On paper I’ve pretty much done everything the job at asks for and it’s an area I’ve got substantial experience in at a competitor firm albeit in a more jnr role.

job title is the same as my current one BUT this role pays £30k more. For information my salary is consistent with an industry average.

job ad is in London, so perhaps that inflates it a bit more but surely not by 30k, and that’s the starting salary.

the hiring process is quite intense too, 4 stages. I’m used to 3 as a max.

but should I just toss my hat into the ring, nothing ventured nothing gained as they say?

the salary is making me wonder if I’d get laughed out the room by HR on initial screening?
would you be offput?

so I’d have normally put this salary at the snr level but I’d recently seen their snr manager salary and it was £110 which is normally head of director level so perhaps they just pay extraordinarily well?

Sounds great, you’ve nothing to lose so go for it.

Why not??

Go for it! Believe in yourself. Be confident and if that is the starting salary express your expectations as higher based on your experience.

Of course you should go for it.

What will you say if they ask your current salary? I tend to hedge my bets and say something like "this is an increase on what I'm currently earning, which was part of what piqued my interest in the opportunity" etc.

Changing jobs is a sure-fire way to increase one's salary. I've increased my own by over 20k in the past few years by doing so.

I was approached by a recruiter about a new job last year. £25k pay rise. I never thought I’d get it. I found out later that they didn’t even interview anyone else after me. Go for it!

Most of the time you only get a decent pay rise by moving. My DH has moved around every 6-7 years and has had 40k + payrises between companies. Go for it. Your current role is probably underpaid.

Not that you'd want to give away current employer secrets or do anything unethical, don't forget that your experience with a competitor means that you have seen different ways of doing things which has its own value.

https://hbr.org/2014/08/why-women-dont-apply-for-jobs-unless-theyre-100-qualified

Good luck x

I have a cousin who did a degree through work, ie 1 day at uni while working the rest of the time, funded by his firm. He graduated in the June.

My dad is in the same industry for 40 years, very highly regarded, has a lot of training and kept up with all new tech and on a good salary. He has the same job that cousin has just graduated in but far more experience, further qualifications and extra knowledge

My cousin found a role in another part of UK offering 150k, the job role was far beyond what cousin was qualified for. It was so vast my dad said he wasn't qualified to do what they were asking.

24 year old cousin thought fuck it, you dont get anywhere by not trying....he got the job and 5 years later and a few promotions is on over 200k. He did have to pay back the initial firm for the investment they had made in him. But he could afford to do that since he now earned 6 times his old salary.

Throw your hat in the ring, the worst they can do is say no.

Good luck!

Go for it

You only regret the things you didn't have the balls to try never the things that you tried and failed at.

How much does it cost to apply? Let me guess: it’s just your time?

why are you even bothering to think about this?

no man would ever hesitate

no man would question their worth

ffs just go for it

these doubts are for people who are inviting failure and mediocrity

just do it (etc)

That’s the thing, my head is saying oh but they pay that much maybe I can’t do this, but really this field is my bread and butter (much more so that my current field lol) That's for them to decide. You don't have to worry about whether you are up to it. Just give it your best shot.

And if you get it, don't mess around worrying if you've bitten off more than you can chew - accept their assessment of you.

Definitely get your application in!

Apply!

Go for it!

Though I have to say I find the MN narrative that a man would never do this fairly irritating. Sometimes even white males might feel awkward or embarrassed about overselling themselves or asking too much. Yes yes namalt etc etc

Why on earth would you not?

Men will always aply for jobsxabove their pay and skill grade. They just don't see the issue (based on hr research). Nothing ventured, nothing gained!

Nothing ventured, nothing gained.
The worst they can do is say no 🤷🏼‍♀️
A man wouldn't think twice about applying.
Go for it! What have you got to lose?!

(All my positive persuasion there for you)

Best of luck! 🤞🏻👍🏻

Go for it.

I was successful in moving from £60k to £95k so go for it.

Maybe it's one of those companies who expect to own their employees and need to pay higher salaries to keep people?

Something to consider if you want to maintain a life outside work and you're going to have to give a lot more than you do now?

The organisation I work for is well known for paying at the bottom end for what we do, so a lot of people leave, but we're very relaxed and family friendly, which is worth more than money to a lot of people. Some of the people who've left might be earning more, but the hours and travel they have to put in is often a lot more too.

Within limits, it almost always makes sense to punt for as many jobs with the biggest salary jump you can get interviews for. You'll get one of the roles eventually, and it will cover the costs of an employment gap.

It's a ballsy strategy, and you need to be able to afford it though.

My husband had to be talked out of applying for a role of just a 5k jump that was based in London - not where we live! The travel alone would have swallowed up the rise.