To wonder how so many people are comfortable breaking the speed limit?

[AngeloMysterioso]

Is it just me? I’m pretty vigilant about sticking to the speed limit but more and more I’ve noticed recently that I’ll be doing 70 or just below on a dual carriageway or the motorway and someone will go flying past. God forbid I be driving at the limit on the outside lane, even if I’m going faster than everyone in the middle lane it’s only a matter of time before some knob is either flashing their headlights at me or driving up my arse (or both) while I wait for a big enough gap to move across so they can shoot off before doing the same to the next car in front.

It tends to be most often 4x4 drivers or Mercedes/BMW/Jaguar etc types. Maybe they just don’t think they should have to see the back of a 16 year old Fiesta!

This.
20/30 zones have way more accidents than motorways.

😂 everytime I see someone say this, this song is stuck in my head all day! Thanks for that 😂

Who's Brian?

@CantHoldMeDown 90mph on a straight motorway shouldn't be happening whether it's empty or not. Accidents aren't always caused by other drivers and if you lose control of your vehicle at 90mph then you're going to be a lot worse off.

@GasPanic

I have something called lane assist that wrestles the steering wheel from you and tries to pull you back into the centre of the lane when you go outside it.

In our cars, it doesn't "wrestle" with you if you indicate, so it basically does exactly what it's supposed to do, i.e. warn you of unexpected deviation from lane to lane. If you indicate (as you should do), it doesn't activate. At least not in either of our cars. Try it and see!

@CantHoldMeDown You can take your chances, as you’re entitled to do. I am also entitled to say that regularly breaking the law is a selfish thing to do, at the very least.

I hope your Brian keeps working for you.

That's my point .

There are cars a fair bit newer that might struggle at that speed. Like the Peugeot 106 diesel I had as my first car.

because their handling skills are on point and every single one of them are one of the best drivers in the world and they REALLY need to show you so you don't think they are just and average joe/joelene

Less fatal ones though

Oh go on, I know you know the reason but let's humour you

20/30 mph tend to be residential: Residential areas have:

people turning out of side roads
people parking
people coming out driveways
all the above can have obscured vision by parked cars/hedges/buildings
traffic lights
zebra crossings
people running onto the road
people setting up sat navs at journey start
people finishing checking phones

generally more hazards that motorways don't

If you get pulled over for speeding I'm not sure the police will be bothered that you feel the law is wrong. Of course you can be passing vehicles at 70, lorries only go 60

What about all the non - motorway roads that have a 70 mph speed limit ?

What about vans, a lot of them are restricted to a lower speed limit . Should they be excluded from motorways too? ( I know a lot of people will think probably, but that wasn't the original point)

Perhaps the 70 limit is more of an average.

It's the unanswerable conundrum of driving. Stick to the posted limit and endure beeping, tailgating and obscene gestures or break the law.

My driving instructor couldn't give workable answers to my questions about this and once I passed my test I didn't drive much, now I don't drive at all.

Because they don't care about their license and are dim

It does wrestle in some cars, mine does. So coming up a slip road and there's some tar on the lane it all of a sudden pulls hard even though not changing lane.
And I indicate pulling out but not in always, so it's a pain. I switch it off

I’m be never understood this. Presumably if you’re going 70 in the outside lane then everyone else should fuck off and slow down.

The lane assist in my car is downright dangerous. It seems to have trouble with the grass on the dual carriageway central reservation near us, and will move my steering when I'm moving in a straight line in the middle of a wide lane.

On a windy 40mph road near us with narrow (but nothing crazy) lanes, it's downright dangerous. I keep forgetting to turn it off (you have to turn it off at the start of every journey) and nearly crashed the other day. One of the scarier moments I've had behind the wheel.

No idea why you've had such a hard time OP, your post was very clear.

Yes, understood. Cars are safe nowadays at faster speeds, it's the motorbikes that need to slow down.

Have you never driven in a motorway in traffic? I regularly drive on a 3 lane motorway with a 100kph speed limit. You can be in the right hand lane doing 100kph slowly overtaking all of the traffic in the middle lane that's doing 90kph for junction after junction, in a long line of traffic doing the same thing. You would only ever be in the left hand lane on that motorway to enter or exit because it's so busy.

As for the 'I drive appropriately to the variable conditions of the road' crowd, I'll believe that when I see a single driver actually drop from eighty to 50 when requested by gantry signs, or indicated by sudden atrocious weather.

We got caught in a storm once and I was begging DP to slow down, he said it would be dangerous to do so because nobody else had so we all bombed along with severely reduced vision on a busy motorway. Crowd stupidity.