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To wonder how so many people are comfortable breaking the speed limit?

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AngeloMysterioso · 16/08/2024 10:50

Is it just me? I’m pretty vigilant about sticking to the speed limit but more and more I’ve noticed recently that I’ll be doing 70 or just below on a dual carriageway or the motorway and someone will go flying past. God forbid I be driving at the limit on the outside lane, even if I’m going faster than everyone in the middle lane it’s only a matter of time before some knob is either flashing their headlights at me or driving up my arse (or both) while I wait for a big enough gap to move across so they can shoot off before doing the same to the next car in front.

It tends to be most often 4x4 drivers or Mercedes/BMW/Jaguar etc types. Maybe they just don’t think they should have to see the back of a 16 year old Fiesta!

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Cosyblankets · 16/08/2024 17:33

AngeloMysterioso · 16/08/2024 11:00

As I said in my OP- when I’m in the outside lane it’s because I’m going faster than the cars in the middle lane.

When there’s nobody to overtake I move across.

There's no way anyone is flashing you if you move straight back after overtaking

Ponderingwindow · 16/08/2024 17:35

I’m not comfortable breaking the speed limit.

however there are several segments of road near me where even if I am in the ‘slow’ lane, going the speed limit makes me a hazard at certain times. If I don’t keep up at least somewhat with the flow of traffic, I’m going to end up in an accident or be the root cause of one.

Verv · 16/08/2024 17:42

MorrisZapp · 16/08/2024 17:30

As an alternative to losing your license and possibly your livelihood. Of course repeated or extreme speeding is serious.

Dont think anybody is advocating doing 120+ on a dual carriageway.

Mischance · 16/08/2024 18:41

If I don’t keep up at least somewhat with the flow of traffic ........

On a motorway the flow of traffic is not allowed legally to go above 70mph. If people obeyed the law there would be no problem of holding others up.

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Similar happened in our village. We had two fatal accidents. The council went mad with traffic calming, road humps, lowering speed limit, central islands, hash markings everywhere. Sounds sensible, no?

Well no, because both were nothing to do with speed. One was a drunk driver who ploughed into a school boy who wasn't watching what he was doing. The other was a group of teens playing idiots on the way home from the pub, and ended up wrapped around a tree. The police reports in both cited that both cars were within the speed limits!

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ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2024 19:10

Ah, looks like we've got to the point of the thread where a reminder that two wrongs don't make a right might be in order.

ErrolTheDragon · 16/08/2024 19:11

Ponderingwindow · 16/08/2024 17:35

I’m not comfortable breaking the speed limit.

however there are several segments of road near me where even if I am in the ‘slow’ lane, going the speed limit makes me a hazard at certain times. If I don’t keep up at least somewhat with the flow of traffic, I’m going to end up in an accident or be the root cause of one.

It's not you that's the hazard if you're driving at the speed limit.

Chester23 · 16/08/2024 19:16

Tryingtokeepgoing · 16/08/2024 13:54

The police are absolutely not bothered though, unless speeds exceed their guidelines for a FPN or prosecution. Which answers the OPs question why people are comfortable exceeding the speed limit!!

If they pull you over for your speed they aren't going to be asking your opinion. The poster I replied to didn't specify a speed just that they think the speed limit is a guideline.

I drive 80 on a motorway, I am aware i will likely get away with this. I had driven 75 past a police car and been pulled over. I am aware that the majority of police won't pull you over for being slightly over

MouseofCommons · 16/08/2024 19:22

Yanbu.
I wish the lot of them could be caught on speed cameras and the penalties much higher. I always get bad drivers up my backside if I have to overtake in the 3rd lane.

Mischance · 16/08/2024 19:25

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I presume they race on a racetrack and not on the public road. My disgust remains intact.

CantHoldMeDown · 16/08/2024 19:27

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DreamW3aver · 16/08/2024 19:46

labamba007 · 16/08/2024 11:07

You should not be in the outside lane for more than a few seconds.

Do you do much motorway driving? Thats just so unrealistic most of the time I can only think you don't

Pedallleur · 16/08/2024 20:14

Oblomov24 · 16/08/2024 11:05

I don't think 70mph speed limit is suitable for some motorways anymore. Cars have changed and are more efficient, better braking systems and capabilities. Despite the speed test accident/crash data, I'd rather be allowed to drive at say 80mph.

And yet they are driven by Mk 1 humans who havent changed. Drive at 80 then you want 90 and all the time that stopping distance is getting greater even in perfect conditions

Babyboomtastic · 16/08/2024 20:16

It's arrogant beyond belief to think that you're such a special driver that the rules of road don't apply to you.

It doesn't matter whether the speed limits are right. They are they law and if they are broken you are breaking the law.

Whether someone will face prosecution is a secondary issue.. Certainly if there was a crash,n beetle below the threshold for prosecution isn't going to be a defence to dangerous driving.

If someone disagrees with the law, then they are at liberty to write to their MP, set up a campaign, try to get it declared in parliament.

labamba007 · 16/08/2024 21:23

@DreamW3aver yes I drive on the motorway regularly. My answer was based on the OP explaining she does 70mph in the 'fast lane'. If that's what they are doing pulling into the middle lane as quickly as possible is what she needs to do.

You can disagree with drivers that go 70+ on a motorway in the fast lane, however not much is changing that and it's incredibly dangerous to keep them going at a slower pace getting very frustrated. Move over and let them pass otherwise there will be an accident.

And saying it's just impossible to get into the middle lane is bollocks.

parkrun500club · 16/08/2024 21:25

Cosyblankets · 16/08/2024 17:33

There's no way anyone is flashing you if you move straight back after overtaking

Do you really think that?

There are loads of entitled drivers who think you shouldn't be in the outside lane if you are going less fast than they want to. They don't care that you are overtaking something, it's beep beep beep and flash flash flash. Not all drivers, thankfully a very small minority but enough to make an impression.

parkrun500club · 16/08/2024 21:27

Chester23 · 16/08/2024 19:16

If they pull you over for your speed they aren't going to be asking your opinion. The poster I replied to didn't specify a speed just that they think the speed limit is a guideline.

I drive 80 on a motorway, I am aware i will likely get away with this. I had driven 75 past a police car and been pulled over. I am aware that the majority of police won't pull you over for being slightly over

The police might not pull you over but the cameras may well get you if they are switched on.

Rosesanddaffs · 16/08/2024 21:33

@AngeloMysterioso Too many, my brother was killed because some idiot was driving way over the speed limit and on his phone

parkrun500club · 16/08/2024 21:34

Mischance · 16/08/2024 14:07

70 mph is NOT slow - it is the speed limit and no-one should be exceeding it in any lane. Never - not under any circumstances.

Do people causally break the law in any other sphere of life? - in the main no. A law is a law - you cannot pick and choose which you will abide by.

I bet the people who think it's fine to drive at 90 are the ones on the other thread who think it's outrageous to take a pastry from the hotel breakfast bar to eat later.

Now which one might kill or maim someone?

InkyPinkyPonky24 · 16/08/2024 21:40

Babyboomtastic · 16/08/2024 20:16

It's arrogant beyond belief to think that you're such a special driver that the rules of road don't apply to you.

It doesn't matter whether the speed limits are right. They are they law and if they are broken you are breaking the law.

Whether someone will face prosecution is a secondary issue.. Certainly if there was a crash,n beetle below the threshold for prosecution isn't going to be a defence to dangerous driving.

If someone disagrees with the law, then they are at liberty to write to their MP, set up a campaign, try to get it declared in parliament.

Completely agree. I'm astounded by the arrogance of some who think that there is zero risk if going over the speed limit...completely forgetting that we are all human and make mistakes no matter how much training we may have had on the road. Why risk it? Could these people live with themselves if they hit someone on the hard shoulder that they didn't see because they were travelling far too fast?

CantHoldMeDown · 16/08/2024 22:17

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