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AIBU to withhold contact from Ex and now DGPs

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GreyCloudsAbove · 15/08/2024 16:58

Dear All

I need some advice...

I’ve posted about my situation with my ExDP before under different username, and I’m seeking some guidance. ExDP left approx. 1.5 years ago for OW who was a functioning addict (noone knew about his addiction to start with). For over a year, he has been asking to return home, he loves us, misses us and needs help to get better.... After months of drama, he has finally managed to leave OW and has supposedly been trying to get better. Well.... there has been no significant change and in fact I believe he has gone worse. He is officially staying at his parents’ house, but in reality, he’s staying at friends’ places every night, with only his stuff remaining at his parents. Most of his friends use cocaine as well.

A month ago, I went fully no contact with him. Two weeks ago, after further emotional damage caused to DC, I decided to halt visitation. His family agreed, though some were reluctant. Given his track record of inconsistent contact, abandoning DC midway through visits, and causing arguments while clearly struggling with his addiction, I felt this was necessary. He hasn’t contributed to parenting responsibilities, like feeding DC or ensuring schoolwork is completed. He even blamed me for stopping him from driving DC due to safety concerns. During contact he would often be irritated or fall asleep...I could write a book about the stunts he has pulled.

I’ve set clear boundaries with him and his family (who were supervising visits). The issue arose when DC was scheduled to spend a week with their grandparents and cousins. I asked if contingencies were in place in case the ex showed up, as he often disregards rules. My MIL responded that they can’t prevent him from arriving, but reassured me that DC wouldn’t be too upset as there would be other people there. My concern is that I’ve made it clear that no contact between the exDP and DC should occur until he proves he’s clean from drugs. If he doesn’t comply, he can take legal action he has threatened me with on many occasions.

MIL’s response was that excluding him could push him further down a destructive path. I’ve reached out to various organizations and, following their advice, sent MIL a calm message explaining that while I understand their need to support their son, the safety and well-being of DC must be our priority. I can’t trust them to keep DC safe if they won’t set boundaries with the exDP. They haven’t enforced any limits on him, and he continues to live without responsibility or accountability. No rent to pay, comes and goes as he pleases, disappears for days at the time.... All of this is not brought up in order to keep the peace. As soon as anything is mentioned, he storms out and doesn't return.

I’m concerned that DC will miss out on important family time, but I can’t risk their safety. I don’t want to damage my relationship with MIL and the rest of the family, who have been an essential part of our lives. However, I feel they’re enabling the ex’s behaviour and not addressing the situation with the seriousness it demands. They seem unwilling to take a stand, which might allow the situation to continue unresolved.

AIBU? What should I do to balance protecting my child while managing these family dynamics? I had legal advice which confirmed that in this situation it is lawful to withhold contact from exDP and to be honest, he doesn't seem to bothered either.

*Added by MNHQ at the request of the OP - I don't want to stop DGPs from having contact. Just not at their house or holiday location due to ex.

OP posts:
cansu · 15/08/2024 17:05

It is entirely up to you. You seem annoyed that he isn't paying rent to them etc. Why is this relevant to the children having contact with their grandparents?

GreyCloudsAbove · 15/08/2024 17:07

cansu · 15/08/2024 17:05

It is entirely up to you. You seem annoyed that he isn't paying rent to them etc. Why is this relevant to the children having contact with their grandparents?

I have explained is because they are now unhappy with maintaining no contact because they don't want to rock the boat with ex so they expect me to drop my boundaries again to accommodate ex if he chooses to turn up. They are very much sweep under the carpet people.

I'm not annoyed he isn't paying rent, I'm saying they are enabling his addiction by not requesting things like rent money so he has more cash to put it up his nose

OP posts:
GreyCloudsAbove · 15/08/2024 17:13

I probably should add I don't mean to stop contact fully but more so manage DGPs seeing DC at mine or taking out for the day when there is less chance for exDP to appear

OP posts:
AutumnFroglets · 15/08/2024 17:14

I wouldn't like to restrict loving grandparents from seeing their grandchildren just because their father is useless, but I totally understand why you want to.

How far away are the grandparents? Could they visit you once or twice a month for a few hours (afternoon tea of sandwiches etc) so they can bond with the children, or even take them to the zoo for the day? I wouldn't send the children to their house if ex dips in and out until he is drug free AND responsible.

EDIT - I see we cross posted 😃

GreyCloudsAbove · 15/08/2024 17:15

AutumnFroglets · 15/08/2024 17:14

I wouldn't like to restrict loving grandparents from seeing their grandchildren just because their father is useless, but I totally understand why you want to.

How far away are the grandparents? Could they visit you once or twice a month for a few hours (afternoon tea of sandwiches etc) so they can bond with the children, or even take them to the zoo for the day? I wouldn't send the children to their house if ex dips in and out until he is drug free AND responsible.

EDIT - I see we cross posted 😃

Edited

My door is always open and they know that. Thr mine issue is the upcoming trip...

OP posts:
itsmabeline · 15/08/2024 17:28

Them not charging him rent is irrelevant.

If you are upset that if you leave DC at their house, your ExP will see them when you want to restrict access then that should be the issue. Not the rent or any other arrangement they have between them.

If you want to keep your DC away from your ex then the grandparents can visit them at your house or when you're with them.

SonicTheHodgeheg · 15/08/2024 17:41

I agree with you that the children are not safe at their grandparents house. I understand why they find it difficult to be tough on their son even when he is a druggie but the children must come first. If ex did something unacceptable then I’m not so sure that they would say no to their son and protect the kids.

AutumnFroglets · 15/08/2024 17:53

GreyCloudsAbove · 15/08/2024 17:15

My door is always open and they know that. Thr mine issue is the upcoming trip...

Okay. Can you please post your question separately as I can't find it easily in your OP. I did notice MNHQ have added something but it's still not clear.

Is the holiday location in this country? Does Ex know the location and dates? How likely is he to just turn up if it's several miles away, ie does he drive or is it a train away?

GreyCloudsAbove · 15/08/2024 18:08

AutumnFroglets · 15/08/2024 17:53

Okay. Can you please post your question separately as I can't find it easily in your OP. I did notice MNHQ have added something but it's still not clear.

Is the holiday location in this country? Does Ex know the location and dates? How likely is he to just turn up if it's several miles away, ie does he drive or is it a train away?

Holiday location is about 2.5hrs away from their home. Ex knows location and caused drama there 2 weeks ago during visitation which is why I have now withdrawn contact with DC.

To be fair withdrawing contact was long overdue but I have tried to get ex the help he needed for all those months.

He does drive and is likely turn up because I have withdrawn contact.

He knows his parents have weak boundaries and they will allow him to come in as they will not want to cause issues in front of children and neighbours.

This is my whole issue, if they can't enforce my boundaries, particularly as DC are aware of no contact set and are OK with it, then I don't feel like they should be going. I am worried however about the impact this will have on my relationship with the family. I feel the trust has now been broken with them saying they can't stop him from coming. Yes they can, they just don't want to rock the boat which enables his behaviour and addiction further.

OP posts:
AutumnFroglets · 15/08/2024 18:13

Ex knows location and caused drama there 2 weeks ago during visitation
That's all I needed. Don't let DC go. He cannot be trusted. Sure, everyone will be disappointed but that is on them because they didn't/won't step up to protect the children.

cansu · 15/08/2024 18:15

I think then that the answer is clear. They visit the kids at your house. You can't expect them to prevent their son from entering their house. I would imagine they are trying to keep him afloat as best they can.

Thunderboltandlightningveryveryfrightening · 15/08/2024 18:15

2.5 hours is a long drive for you if it kicks off and you need to collect them. You know they will always side with him right? Even when his nose is none existent

Back away for now and keep your dc with you and safe. The dgps won't be willing or able to do that ..
Imo.

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