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Phoning in sick on Christmas Day?

343 replies

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:06

I work as a receptionist in a hotel
I have been told as the newest member of the team I will be working Christmas Day months in advance.
It's 11am -11 pm shift and the same Christmas Eve (my birthday)
It's minimum wage and we won't get paid extra.
My dad is 87 and isn't in the best health and I'm his only family
I'm really scared that this might be his last Christmas and I'm wasting it at work for a company who doesn't care
I asked to swap and was told no
I asked if anyone else wanted to work was told no

Aibu to phone in sick?
Il just add I'm not workshy
I never ring in sick

OP posts:
Putting · 15/08/2024 13:18

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:15

@ByCupidStunt if I worked for the nhs that is different ,this is hotel reception
Who choose to open Christmas Day out of sheer greed

I’m not sure a hotel opening Christmas Day is opening out of sheer greed.

Lots of people are likely to need hotel accommodation if they’re travelling to see people over Christmas. The hotel is providing a service.

It’s a risk when you work in hospitality - if it was going to be a deal breaker for you, you should have negotiated before taking the job.

But as others have said, you have time to find a different job.

StellaCruella · 15/08/2024 13:18

Sounds like you've made up your mind...

Unexpectedlysinglemum · 15/08/2024 13:18

Dozycuntlaters · 15/08/2024 13:11

Are you able to get another job? I honestly would not have my ailing 87 year old parent on their own christmas day. I would start the new job and just keep looking and then if you're still there christmas then ring in sick. I never take time off sick but somethings there are more important things than a company who dont give a shit about you.

Fair point here

Destiny123 · 15/08/2024 13:18

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:12

If I'm pulling my weight
Why is nobody else?
Why are Christmas Eve and day on the same person ?
To me that's not fair
I wouldn't mind doing Christmas Eve
New Year's Eve and day just not Christmas Day

Just pick a different day as "fake Xmas" that's what I do as a Dr that's worked 7 out of 9 Xmas' since I've graduated. Does bug me as they often don't change the rolling rota pattern so I'm often working 13h days 24,25,26,27th each time

Tbh if it was me I'd just find another job you've got nearly 4m to do so

Nottodayplease36 · 15/08/2024 13:19

I wouldn’t phone in sick, but I wouldn’t be working Christmas Day for my normal pay either. Look for another job between now and then.

ilovesooty · 15/08/2024 13:19

Ilovelurchers · 15/08/2024 13:18

Everyone on here is obsessed with employer's rights, and also playing by "the rules" - it's a very right wing website in the main. Very little compassion or interest in the well-being of employees.

Luckily you don't need a consensus of posters on here to tell you to take time off. Just do it if you consider it the right choice for you in your context.

I don't see how your employer's could prove you were lying and fire you. Depends on the terms of your contract - can you be dismissed without a good reason?

I would take this down personally - with the age of your dad etc it's a bit identifiable. Your employers might see it.

She hasn't been there long enough for any legal protection. They don't have to prove she lied.

HelenWheels · 15/08/2024 13:19

start searching for an office job

HelenWheels · 15/08/2024 13:19

resign at the end of november

SquashPenguin · 15/08/2024 13:19

I would find another job. It doesn't sound like you've been in this one very long so it's a bit off to go in suggesting everyone works Xmas day if that's not the done thing. I'd be very unimpressed if a new starter said that in my work place. Please don't ring in sick, it's a crappy thing to do when you're not sick. If the boot was on the other foot you wouldn't be happy if you worked last Xmas and now this year someone has lied so you have to cover for them.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 15/08/2024 13:20

He wouldn't understand why Christmas Day wasn't Christmas

Why not? If he is capable of understanding when Christmas is, then he is capable of understanding that you have a work commitment.

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:20

I'm applying for everything now
Retail /office etc

I took this job because I needed a job and to earn money
The shifts are rubbish but it is what it is
It's just Christmas Day that's upsetting me

OP posts:
FancyBiscuitsLevel · 15/08/2024 13:22

I would say you don’t want to work it now.

then look for other jobs, it’s it’s just paying minimum wage, you’ll probably be able to find something else. You’d be better off working in a supermarket, the big chains tend to be more reasonable with shift patterns.

Resign when you’ve lined something else up, failing all, resign 23rd November, say it’s because of the Christmas Eve and Christmas Day shift and you would stay if they could arrange a fairer shift pattern. They might agree to change the shift pattern including you rather than scrambling at a months notice to recruit someone, training them and then have them work Christmas Eve and day.

Sinderalla · 15/08/2024 13:22

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:15

@ByCupidStunt if I worked for the nhs that is different ,this is hotel reception
Who choose to open Christmas Day out of sheer greed

NHS are paid handsomely for Xmas day. I'm nhs.

I say get out of it what ever way you have to, deal with the consequences after.
I would take the rest of my life off work if I could spend another Christmas Day with any of my parents!!

Idontjetwashthefucker · 15/08/2024 13:22

But everyone else there has had their turn at working Christmas Day, you've been told it's your turn as you're new. Yeah it sucks that your dad could be on his own but you can't just ring in sick, it's not fair. Either work the shift and celebrate on another day or quit

HelenWheels · 15/08/2024 13:23

most places pay extra for christmas
celebrate on boxing day
does he have anyone else?

hopeishere · 15/08/2024 13:23

No one will believe you. You'll jeopardise your employment. Look for another job.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 15/08/2024 13:23

Ilovelurchers · 15/08/2024 13:18

Everyone on here is obsessed with employer's rights, and also playing by "the rules" - it's a very right wing website in the main. Very little compassion or interest in the well-being of employees.

Luckily you don't need a consensus of posters on here to tell you to take time off. Just do it if you consider it the right choice for you in your context.

I don't see how your employer's could prove you were lying and fire you. Depends on the terms of your contract - can you be dismissed without a good reason?

I would take this down personally - with the age of your dad etc it's a bit identifiable. Your employers might see it.

Yes, you do seem to have very little interest or compassion in the wellbeing of OP's colleagues, being called in last minute.

I can understand why OP wants to prioritise herself/her family over her colleagues and their families. But they're all strangers to us so I'm not sure why she expects us to agree that she's more important.

mitogoshi · 15/08/2024 13:23

And it's not out of greed hotels open, it's because people want to spend Christmas away, often lonely people or those who find Christmas difficult. It's expensive to stay in a hotel, it's a choice - they wouldn't open if people didn't book. Also typically there's a serious uplift in pay eg my local restaurant pays staff double plus you are expected to leave £10 cash tip per person in your party to thank the staff who are mostly young but also those who just need the job.

Hillarious · 15/08/2024 13:23

There have been numerous AIBUs about the downsides of being an only child. Is this an example?

jokish · 15/08/2024 13:23

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:08

Well it's either disappointing a company or my dad.
I suggested shorter shifts over more members of staff and was refused

Change jobs

Makingchocolatecake · 15/08/2024 13:24

If you are his only family, take him to work for the day, can he sit in the lobby? And have your Xmas the day after.

Truetoself · 15/08/2024 13:24

Just tell them you will work one of those days but both both. Give your reasons. If they say no, start looking for another role ASAP. But do not call in sick on Christmas Day unless you are genuinely sick. You have had enough notice to bring Christmas forward and celebrate another day. But the person you drop in it won't.

themanors · 15/08/2024 13:24

There's two other receptionists started 2 months before me
They haven't worked any Christmas shifts as they are new
Yet because im newer it's on me
So its not a case of everyone taking turns

OP posts:
Madamecholetsbonnet · 15/08/2024 13:24

They will just sack you if you call in sick Christmas Day, and then you won't be able to use them as a reference.

Where do you live that you can't get another job by December?!

pinkyredrose · 15/08/2024 13:24

ilovesooty · 15/08/2024 13:07

I'm sorry you're in that situation but I think ringing in sick if you aren't sick would be unreasonable.

Why should she sacrifice what may be her dad's Christmas?

Op those are horrendous hours to work over Christmas, i don't believe there's no-one else that can do it. I reckon as you're new they trying to pull the wool over your eyes. Tell them no and look for a new job.